Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92)

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Previous thread titles for reference:

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation (10/27/17)

First Charges Filed in Mueller Investigation, Part Two (10/28/17)

The Four Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 3 (10/31/17)

A Man For All Treasons: Mueller Investigation, Part 4 (11/5/17)

It's Beginning to Look a lot like Treason! The Mueller Investigation Part 5 (12/4/17)

Treason Is The Reason For The Season! The Mueller Investigation Part 6 (12/16/17)

Treason to Believe (The Mueller Investigation Part 7) (12/26/17)

I Love You For Sentimental Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 8) (1/3/18)

Give Me One Treason To Stay Here... (The Mueller Investigation Part 9) (1/15/18)

Treasons of Love (The Mueller Investigation Part 10) (1/24/18)

For Treasons Which Are Well Known To Them (The Mueller Investigation Part 11) (1/30/18)

Come on and Treason Down, Treason Down the Road (The Mueller Investigation Part 12) (2/6/18)

13 Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 13) (2/18/18)

By Treason of Insanity (The Mueller Investigation Part 14) (2/23/18)

The Edge of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 15) (2/28/18)

A Treason to Live; A Treason to Die (The Mueller Investigation Part 16)…(3/10/18)

Treasons of the Heart (The Mueller Investigation Part 17) (3/17/18)

A Stormy Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 18) (3/21/18)

Lovin', Touchin', Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 19) (3/26/18)

Everything Happens for a Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 20) (4/4/18)

For All the Right Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 21) (4/11/18)

Treasons Change (The Mueller Investigation Part 22) (4/16/18)

Dangerous Tre'asons (The Mueller Investigation Part 23) (4/22/18)

Don't Stop (the) Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 24) (5/1/18)

Got This Treason in My Body (The Mueller Investigation Part 25) (5/7/18)

I'm Treason on a Jet Plane... (The Mueller Investigation Part 26) (5/14/18)

Treasonnaires' Disease (The Mueller Investigation Part 27) (5/21/18)

You've Lost That Lovin' Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 28) (6/2/18)

Multiple Treasons Why (The Mueller Investigation Part 29) (6/9/18)

For Undisclosed Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 30) (6/18/18)

The Apple Doesn't Fall Far from the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 31) (06/23/18)

Treason d'être (The Mueller Investigation Part 32) (06/30/18)

My Treasons Are Not My Own (The Mueller Investigation Part 33) (07/08/18)

The Treasons a Baby Cries (The Mueller Investigation Part 34) (07/13/19)

Get to Know Your Family Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 35) (07/15/18)

All You Got To Do is Hold Him And Kiss Him and Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 36) (07/17/18)

Fall or Spring? Which Would / Wouldn't Be Your Favorite Treason? (The Mueller Investigation Part 37) (07/18/18)

It's the Time of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 38) (07/21/18)

My Treasonal Summer Job Abroad (The Mueller Investigation Part 39) (07/25/18)

Yellow is the Color of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 40) (07/27/18)

The Treason for my Life's Trials and Tribulations (The Mueller Investigation Part 41) (07/31/18)

Hunting Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 42) (08/04/18)

It's Swimsuit Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 43) (08/07/18)

Treasonably Priced (The Mueller Investigation Part 44) (08/12/18)

Tre45onal Affective Disorder (The Mueller Investigation Part 45) (08/16/18)

A Plea for Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 46 (08/21/18)

Untreasonably Hot (The Mueller Investigation Part 47) (08/22/18)

There is a Treason... Turn, Turn, Turn (The Mueller Investigation Part 48) (08/24/18)

The Voice of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 49) (08/28/18)

The Golden Age of Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 50) (09/03/18)

Treasons for Remaining Anonymous (The Mueller Investigation Part 51) (09/08/18)

Hurricane Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 52) (09/16/18)

All Natural Mushroom Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 53) (09/22/18)

Treasoning with an Alcoholic (The Mueller Investigation Part 54) (09/28/18)

Judicial Treasoning (The Mueller Investigation Part 55) (10/06/18)

Treasons for Hidden Genius (The Mueller Investigation Part 56) (10/15/18)

Trick or Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 57) (10/25/18)

Several Treasons to Get Out and Vote in the Midterms (The Mueller Investigation Part 58) (11/5/18)

Heading Back to the Magical Keebler Elf Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 59) (11/11/18)

It's Turkey Picking Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 60) (November 18, 2018)

Stepping into the Holiday Treason! (The Mueller Investigation Part 61) (November 26, 2018)

Treason's Greetings! (The Mueller Investigation Part 62) (November 29, 2018)

Spirit of the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 63) (December 3, 2018)

'Tis the Treason to be Jolly (The Mueller Investigation Part 64) (December 5, 2018)

Celebrate this Holiday Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 65) (December 8, 2018)

Treasons to Get out of Solitary (The Mueller Investigation Part 66) (December 10, 2018)

Numerous Treasons For Silence (The Mueller Investigation Part 67) December 12, 2018)

Treasons We Celebrate This Season (The Mueller Investigation Part 68) (December 15, 2018)

Trimming the Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 69) (December 19, 2018)

O Christmas Treason, O Christmas Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 70) (December 22, 2018)

Treasons We'll Be Ringing in the New Year (The Mueller Investigation Part 71) (December 27, 2018)

Treasons I'm Coming For You (The Mueller Investigation Part 72) (January 3, 2019)

A Shutdown is Perfectly Treasonable (The Mueller Investigation Part 73) (January 6, 2019)

Treasons I'm Focused (The Mueller Investigation Part 74) (January 10, 2019)

Treasons We Need A Wall (The Mueller Investigation Part 75) (January 13, 2019)

Mid-Treason Replacement (The Mueller Investigation Part 76) (January 15, 2019)

A Treasonable Request (The Mueller Investigation Part 77) (January 19, 2019)

Treasons to Postpone (The Mueller Investigation Part 78) (January 23, 2019)

Swinging from the Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 79) (January 26, 2019)

Sweating Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 80) (January 30, 2019)

I'll Be Your Girl For All Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 81) (February 4, 2019)

House Cleaning Treason (The Mueller Investigation Part 82) (February 9, 2019)

For Emergency Treasons (The Mueller Investigation Part 83) (February 15, 2019)

Treasons I Speak (The Mueller Investigation Part 84) (February 19, 2019)

Treasonable Preparations (The Mueller Investigation Part 85) (February 23, 2019)

Treasons for Redemption (The Mueller Investigation Part 86) (March 1, 2019)

Treasons to Watch (The Mueller Investigation Part 87) (March 7, 2019)

A Treasonable Amount of Time (The Mueller Investigation Part 88) (March 11, 2019)

Treasons I Have Veto Power (The Mueller Investigation Part 89) (March 18, 2019)

Treasons I've Submitted My Report (The Mueller Investigation Part 90) (March 22, 2019)

Treasons to Continue On (The Mueller Investigation Part 91) (March 24, 2019)

Treasons For a Barr Cover (The Mueller Investigation Part 92) (March 24, 2019)

And try to remember to not feed the trolls.

John Goodman has a lock on the role of AG Barr.

Trump Aided and Abetted Russia’s Attack. That Was Treachery. Full Stop.

I'm starting to wonder if Trump ran for POTUS as leverage for the Tower deal- same as Manafort signed on for the cache' it would give him with Ukranians, etc. (he was broke at the time and in serious debt).

Trump didn't want to be President, and never thought he'd win (despite Steve Bannon's cheerleading). But the art of the deal, you know; it's always money with him.

If true, I hope Mueller accepts the House’s invitation to speak ASAP.

You know Trump wanted to win because Trump is keeping his campaign promises. Now that the Mueller probe is kaput, Trump will focus on locking Her up.

Muellers a private citizen now, right? He can speak out all he wants.

Kilimnik has been indicted.

Veselnitskaya has been indicted.

Manafor pled guilty.

The RNC changed Ukrainian policy.

No Russian meddling..

Something is wrong with Barr's interpretation of the facts.

The whole report and supporting evidence to The House Committees.

R8, No. The Russians ran Trump for POTUS, and rigged the election of him, to turn US foreign policies in their favor.

The carrot may have been TT Moscow; the stick, however, was, and remains, videos.

Let me amend that:

The other stick, the cudgel, is the immense debt the Trump Family is in to Russian oligarchs. Aiding Russian plans for Europe (NATO, e.g.) is the Quo. Hence, Trump's disdain for Merkel; his snub of D-Day commemorations; his hiring of pro-Putin Ukraine agent Manafort and the subsequent choice of Manafort's guy Pence as VP; his totally private talks with Putin; etc.

Keep on fucking that chicken, r15.

This thread should have been called "Treason wasn't the reason".

So the story is that Barr's 4 page letter misrepresnts what is really contained in the Mueller Report? If that's so wouldn'r Meuller immediately issue a statement to that affect?

Daily Beast -- After Robert Mueller Issues His Report, the Democrats Who Waited Two Years for This Moment Stare Into the Abyss

Eventually, and sooner rather than later now, anyone who’d convinced themselves the Mueller Report would finally take down Trump will have to come to terms with reality, or separate from it entirely. This was not some haphazard investigation. It included the Special Counsel, 19 lawyers, and 40 FBI agents, and other staff, who “thoroughly investigated” allegations of Russian collusion. And they found no crime. Nothing.

Regular viewers of liberal-leaning cable news outlets may have an especially hard time grappling with the fact that the narrative has suddenly gone bust. If Trump’s presidency were a TV show (as people often joke), then this is the episode where someone says, “By the way, that whole last season was a dream.”

Spin it anyway you like, but for the amount of breathless coverage these last two years about every little development in this case, what we are left with is Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vault.

NO ONE HAS SEEN THE GD REPORT. No one knows what is in it. Barr has given us his version.The house intel committee has a legal right to the document. What we do know is Barr refuses to hand it over.

R21 Barr has given us "his version"? And if it doesn't jive with what is really in the report, Mueller will remain silent?

Time to roll the mother fucking guillotines!

Fuck that fat idiot Barr. Put his head on a pike. We need to clear this entire nest of vipers out.

Now.

[quote]Trump Aided and Abetted Russia’s Attack. That Was Treachery. Full Stop.

What's with the past tense? 2020 here we come.

R22 Release the report and Mueller's work will speak for itself.

Still don't see anyone trying to explain the immunity deals, lessened sentences, plea bargains, and cooperation agreements that were seemingly meaningless.

And, I don't think Mueller would say anything against Barr's interpretation. He's too much of a Boy Scout and would consider it not his place. I even wonder if getting called before Congress will just have him deferring to the Justice Department the whole time.

Let's say there was collusion, and obstruction, and it's clear in Mueller's report.

Can you imagine a universe in which Barr admits that to the American public?

Please.

Fucker probably pre-wrote the letter and then just filled in a few cherry-picked quotes from the actual report.

R26 Those deals are still good for prosecuting other crimes. Mueller went quite hard on Trump's cronies, but turned soft on the biggest crook at the center of it all.

Can Barr be indicted?

What would have to have transpired for that to happen?

R29, those deals were federal. They were for the cases Mueller was bringing. He was the one making the deals. According to Barr, they all got off easy and gave weeks and weeks of testimony against higher-ups for no reason at all. Who is higher up than the National Security Advisor and the Head of the Campaign? Only one person but, again, according to Barr, that one person is innocent of all federal and international crimes.

Barr must believe the mob is dirty but the mob boss is clean. Barr is essentially Trump's defense attorney granted the power of AG. A clear conflict of interest.

What a doofus

This is why we need to stop letting old white repubs run things. From Trump to McConnell to Barr, ENOUGH. They're scum

If Obama had so much as winked at Putin on camera, he'd have been indicted for conspiracy

With Trump, there could be photos and videos of him sucking Putin's dick and repubs would say he has no relationship to Putin

Well, I am applying for residency in Thailand tomorrow, I am getting out of Dodge.

This R34, and Obama drove them to initiate the self-destruct sequence. Just remember when it's all over that white, largely but not exclusively, male racism destroyed the greatest democracy the world has ever known. White supremacy is the ideology they all share, even the ones that are smart enough to fool you for a minute. That is what turns Americans into traitors giving succor to a foreign enemy, that is what allows government officials and office holders to trash democratic norms, and that is why you should never trust anyone's "impeccable reputation", at least if they happen to be white, male, and Republican.

Agreed that Congress (and the public) should get the entire report, but the collusion thing appears to be a dry well. I'm as disappointed over that as anyone, but we need to move on to things that might actually be useful in either getting rid of Trump or helping to make sure he doesn't get re-elected. Let's not waste ourselves on whackjob conspiracy theories and focus on the obstruction piece.

Above all, though, we have to remember that there isn't much that would dislodge Trump's nutbar base from supporting him, so we have to focus on putting together a unified Democratic front. Once the nominee is selected, that should be it. If you aren't a Trump supporter, vote for the Democratic nominee. Or to put it another way, if you don't vote for the Democratic nominee, you are a Trump supporter.

Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot again voting for one-issue candidates who have no chance of winning - the stakes are too high.

Mueller destroyed us and let a crime family go free as they pillage our country and worse yet, they grift other countries as well. The vile little Jared may actually be the Antichrist...what character would Mueller play?

We ourselves know what the lying cheat, Trump has done, yet Mueller could not supposedly prove a thing. Does anyone think that there might be too many loopholes for white collar criminals?

What Barr did is establish the narrative that favors Trump and the Republican Party. The actual report could be pretty damning, but the right wing and the Deplorables will insist that Barr's "interpretation" is right and what truly matters while the liberal socialists remain in their liberal bubble obsessing about the"too long to read" report picking and choosing whatever may fit with their socialist agenda.

[quote]whatever may fit with their socialist agenda.

Fuck you, scumbag!

r40, did you hear that "whooooooooosh" sound over your head?

This feels a lot like the OJ verdict to me.

Barrbaric

Barrf

A low barr

Barrfly

Barr Stool

Twitter abuzz that Mueller wanted Congress to make the determination based on his Report, not the DOJ. Mueller will testify.

Is there a point to continuing these threads?

That’s great, R45.

Nancy Pelosi puutibg predure to release the report. She knows that criminality is found within it.

Sorry , “putting pressure”

It's over. Counting on an indictment for a sitting President was always a pipe dream.

Trump can spend his life in court after he leaves office. Dems need to focus on the myriad issues they can appeal to voters on.

All the commentators on CNBC and MSNBC should move on as well. All the hours wasted chewing on this dry cud. The whole thing was a waste after it was clear Senate wouldn't impeach until 2021 at the earliest so why bother.

Fuck You, “move on” troll. Block.

Its not over by a long shot.

R51 - this is sad. You’ll block all these people then you will be shocked (again) when trump wins re-election.

What did John Oliver say ?

Just because he ‘won’ today doesn’t mean we will have another 4 years of the Bastard.

It was clear a LONG time ago that collusion wasn’t happening. The only hope was obstruction like Nixon. It’s time to face the fact that he won’t be impeached. It’s not happening. We need a major candidate that can take up as much space and air that he does, and unfortunately we don’t have anyone near that designation. He is a monster that has been created over nearly four decades of bizarre media coverage. He will be nearly impossible to defeat. Logic and reason DON’T MATTER in this race. I’m preparing myself for another six years of this nightmare, that, or fleeing the country if it starts to get really ugly and they turn on us, which feels to me like a real possibility.

[quote] this is sad. You’ll block all these people then you will be shocked (again) when trump wins re-election.

Oh honey, he never win in the first place.

Everyone knows there was obstruction and abuse of power. It's been recorded for our viewing pleasure.

You guys need to understand what impeachment means. It doesn’t mean removal from office. The House impeaches, The Senate convicts. The House could impeach Trump tomorrow. Then the criminal stench is on the Republicans in the Senate. The Republicans impeached Clinton knowing full well he would never be convicted in the Senate. The Democrats should do the same thing to Trump.

R56 - I hate to break it to you Hillary, it’s been over 2 years now, you need to come to terms that Trump won the election.

Does anyone seriously believe he even read the damn thing?

People saying the Democrats need to move on. Yesterday's headline in the NY Post was about how they need to go back to investigating Hillary and Obama. Why is it always Democrats that have to move on? Like it or not, at least Repub's stick to their convictions.

I guess now it will be full speed ahead on vengeful Clinton and Obama investigations.

Part 9000 indeed. Treason is The Seasoning in my Taco

Hope the great orange one has a few extras Big Macs today to celebrate.

The long term problem is the Democrats are becoming a low T, Estrogen Party.

[quote]It shows that collusion and obstruction were defined [by Barr] to exclude what [Trump] did.

That is the final sentence from the excellent Slate article above describing all of Barr's weasel words and terms. His letter was serious gymnastics spin on speed.

Wait until the actual report comes out and the damaging Mueller quotes are all over the media.

So you know what this means?

Hillary lost because she sucks. That’s why.

I guess this is really like election night all over again, devastated that cankles couldn’t win the election and now we discover she actually lost because shebsucks.

She should have taken the damn plane to Wisconsin to make a visit, but she was too busy drinking it up in the hamptons with her rich friends to connect with her voters.

Fred Flintstone, er, I mean William Barr, will testify before Congress and reiterate what he said at his confirmation hearing. There will be nothing new from Katie, Barr the Door.

It's Mueller's remarks before them that I'll be interested in.

Also, the Repugs already are, in an attempt to sound principled and "concerned", diverting to the value of Mueller exposing foreign interference in our elections so we look away from their domestic gutting of voting rights and voters hearing "Your papers, please." in order to vote.

To be counted as one who wants to move on doesn't mean I want the Dems in Congress to not require Barr and Mueller to testify. No, keep that going. What I mean is that whatever DEms did to win in 2018 must be maintained and emphasized.

I've pondered the following for a long time but I've concluded it's true- Republicans never make the mistake of overestimating the intelligence of Americans. Of course, that's not an origin thought by me. What I mean is, they've managed an evil twofer- keeping Americans ignorant AND to not be held to the same standard as Americans hold Dems. That's a back-handed compliment to us, but I'd take the power and of Repugs, instead.

Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about- I took a different view of Hillary not campaigning in Wisconsin. I always took it as a compliment that she concluded, correctly, that we could see an obvious con-man when we saw one. How naïve and idealistic of me.

Americans, like babies reaching with their mouths for the spoon holding the dollop of smushed fruit, find the spoonful of fear and easy, simplistic nonsense held by the Repugs to be instantly gratifying and vote accordingly.

If there’s nothing in the report, it should not be an issue to release it to the public. These politicians work for us, not us for them. It’s time we remember this.

Hey DL lawyers, yesterday on one of the Sunday cable shows (I think CNN), during one of the round table discussions with all the “experts” and “analysts” parsing every word and phrase, one of the legal experts spoke to the whole obstruction issue. He said something like, in order to be charged with obstruction you need the underlying crime you’re trying to obstruct, and demonstrate I think he said “criminal intent” (or a similar phrase) in the actions that were designed to obstruct. Is this true?

He went on to say that since there was no evidence of collusion, there’s no underlying crime, and why Mueller didn’t prove or exonerate Trump of obstruction was because the actions they investigated may not have risen quite to criminal intent, but could be seen as crossing a line and the Mueller team wanted that “black mark” on Trump’s record.

So again DL lawyers, does this rationale/explanation ring true?

Also, regarding the full report and underlying evidence, I thought all Grand Jury testimony is by law barred from being made public? Can the Dems get around that? Would a judge ever agree to such a request?

TIA

My favorite thing about these threads is how it bothers the trolls so much. Seriously, their constant need to shout about them is telling.

No coordination!!!

Russher if you're listening!

Yeah, sure, r67, she lost because she didn't fly to Wisconsin. That and Russia hacked into our election.

Sure, there was totally no crime and totally nothing to see.

That's why everyone involved constantly lies about all of it.

Makes total sense.

Oh HILLARY!!!!!!! 🙀

^Clinton Derangement Syndrome

I know one thing ... if I ever commit a crime in plain sight, I want Mueller as my prosecutor.

No coordination!

Junior Mint arranges meeting with Russians to discuss Clinton info.

“That and Russia hacked into our election.”

Just because you type it, doesn’t make it true

There is NO proof. NONE.

The elections wasn’t hacked. There is no evidence that any voting machines were tapered with. All of this bullshit was created out of thin air because people were so butt hurt Clinton lost (she lost because she sucks)

Yeah!!! Russians totally didn't hack into the election! They just hacked into the system to *try it* but totally didn't end up doing anything!!!!

The question unanswered by the attorney general’s summary of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report is: Why? Russian President Vladimir Putin took an extreme risk by interfering in the 2016 election as he did. Had Hillary Clinton won the presidency—the most likely outcome—Russia would have been exposed to fierce retaliation by a powerful adversary. The prize of a Trump presidency must have glittered alluringly, indeed, to Putin and his associates. Why?

Did they admire Trump’s anti-NATO, anti–European Union, anti-ally, pro–Bashar al-Assad, pro-Putin ideology?

Were they attracted by his contempt for the rule of law and dislike of democracy?

Did they hold compromising information about him, financial or otherwise?

Were there business dealings in the past, present, or future?

Or were they simply attracted by Trump’s general ignorance and incompetence, seeing him as a kind of wrecking ball to be smashed into the U.S. government and U.S. foreign policy?

Now the job returns to the place it has always belonged and never should have left: Congress.

R79's posts are pretty much all about Hillary.

Now we know what Boogeyman keeps him up at night.

I want to hear from Andrew Weissmann, in particular, who definitively linked Manafort to Kalimnik in Ellis's court.

Putin’s not wasting time.

White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday that President Trump doesn’t have “any problem” with special counsel Robert Mueller’s full report being released. “I don’t think the president has any problem with it,” Sanders said on NBC News’s “Today Show” when asked about Trump supporting the release of the report.

“He has been the most transparent, accessible president we’ve seen in modern history," she told NBC's Today Show.

On the other hand, Jay Sekulow, an attorney for President Donald Trump, said Monday he does not want the written answers the President submitted to special counsel Robert Mueller to be released, describing them as “confidential.”

What we know is Barr's opinion on the Mueller investigation before he was even confirmed. We also know Barr's opinion on whether a President can be indicted. We also know that Trump hand picked Barr. We also know that previously, Trump got doctor's to write a letter saying that he's incredibly healthy and will remain that way. So, like those doctors letters, all we get is a letter from Barr saying that Trump is in the clear. I don't care if Trump is hiding heart disease or is about to stroke out, but I do care if he is in cahoots with Russia. And a letter from Barr is not acceptable in this case. The whole report needs to be made public.

Adam Schiff needs to resign for lying repeatedly to the American public about collusion.

When a person is cleared of a criminal charges by a competent court of law in the USA, that person is innocent.

Trump has been found innocent of collusion and Schiff has been lying his ass off. He needs to go at once.

^ Troll

Not only troll but an especially ignorant one.

We've come a long way since the 1960s when the people could be gaslighted with a fake report. We all know that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone and we all know that Trump worked with the Russians. We saw it. We saw him ask them for the 30k emails from her server. We saw 'Lil Don email where he arranged a meeting to work with the Russians. We've seen Trump's Campaign Chair give polling data to the Russias. We've heard Donald Trump tell the Russian Ambassador that he had to fire Comey "because of this Russian thing." We've seen Flynn speaking with the Russians and then lying about it. We've seen Jared trying to get a back channel to the Russians. We've seen Prince trying to get another back channel to the Russians. We've seen Cambridge Analytica work directly with Russians. Cambridge Analytica was run by the president's OTHER campaign manager - Steve Bannon. We've seen the republicans change their position to pro-putin in regards to Ukraine. We've seen Trump defend Putin in Helsinki. We've seen Trump try to hid meetings and phone calls with Putin. We've seen Stone coordinate with Wiki Leaks. We've seen members of the Intelligence Community with their hair on fire because of the raw data they were seeing about Trump and Wiki Leaks. We've seen Grassley and Feinstein expressions after they came out of a classified meeting regarding intelligence about Trump. We've seen the Trump administration try to lift sanctions on Russia. We've seen the Trump administration actually lift sanctions on Russia. Folks, these aren't all coincidences. There may not be a signed contract between Putin and Trump but it can't be any more clearer that Putin worked to elect Trump and Trump is compromised and doing everything Putin wants him to do such as weakening NATO. If you've actually been following this, you know the Barr report is bull shit. Lee Harvey Oswald didn't act alone and neither did Trump. I just hope it doesn't take 40 years to prove it.

Imagine how pathetic one must be to obsessively spend your time trolling on the internet in the name people who don't even know your name? Just think how much you've had to fail at life to resort to that. You must get to the point that you accept you have no worth and the only way to kill the time before you die is to submit to bad people and dictators. There's so much more out there in the world, trolls.

Whenever you hear a moron shout about how the investigation is a waste of time, a "nothingburger," and how an apology is owed?

Just keep reminding them - Whitewater.

R91 wants us all to forget that the media and the Democrats have been lying to us for three years about Trump colluding with Russia.

Trump is as innocent as OJ and Michael Jackson.

R93 Nobody has been lying to me. I've seen it myself.

Yup, all lies!!!!

Russher if you're listening!

How do you see collusion, R95? Perhaps you better report your evidence to Robert Mueller.

These idiots really think that Democrats should go to jail because Trump’s been kidding Putin’s balls?

Let’s see what happens within the next 4 weeks and how the Barr story will change.

That’s kissing. *

Trump has never managed anything with integrity. His businesses, his marriages, his "friendships". If you think his campaign or his administration is on the up and up, you deserve Trump.

Putin, the GOP, Barr, etc. are testing the American public's willingness to (metaphorically speaking) to get fucked up the ass with no lube or kisses in site. Helen Keller sees the whole treasonous affair! Once upon a time, Amiricans would take to the streets in protest of injustice. Today everyone is too Goddamned busy posting on Facebook or taking selfies to care that the coup d'etat took place the day Donald Trump was (ILLEGITIMATELY) declared the 45th POTUS. If there was any way I could leave this country, I would.

BREAKING: Supreme Court rejects mystery company, won't hear Mueller-related appeal over grand jury subpoena.

R102 That doesn't make any sense. Mueller has a subpoena. Either they side with the Mystery Company and give them relief or they don't hear the case and the subpoena stands.

The U.S. Supreme Court turned away an appeal connected to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s now-completed investigation, rejecting arguments from a mystery company that was trying to avoid having to turn over information to a grand jury.

The justices, without explanation Monday, left intact a federal appeals court ruling that said the company, owned by an unidentified foreign government, had to comply with a subpoena. The company, which refused to cooperate, faces fines that have increased by $50,000 a day and may have grown to well more than $2 million.

The ongoing significance of the subpoena fight isn’t clear now that Mueller has submitted his final report on the investigation to Attorney General William Barr. Mueller handed off some aspects of the probe to other federal prosecutors.

Trump can never be fully cleared of wrongdoing and no cover-up will be completely successful because he is by nature a compulsive serial fuckup. People with narcissistic personality disorder blow their chances as a way of life, and getting away with it only makes them more reckless. The more the Republicans cover for him, the more ways he'll find to shit all over the place in full view of his enemies. And he is going to have a lot of enemies by the time he's through in the White House, on top of the ones he's already made.

Barr was brought in as the "fixer". He did it before with Iran-Contra. It's a cover-up. Barr is a Trump ally. He will delay in releasing the report and will redact as much content he thinks he can get away with. This was not a "justice" decision but a political one. Republicans have the power in the WH, in the DOJ leadership, and in the control of the Senate. It is a political victory for Trump and his Republican supporters. But the real truth will be revealed, one way or the other, over time.

Robert Mueller is a famous fixer for the Deep State. That is why he had the full support of the Democrats and the Media.

[quote] That and Russia hacked into our election.”

[quote] Just because you type it, doesn’t make it true

[quote] There is NO proof. NONE.

[quote] The elections wasn’t hacked. There is no evidence that any voting machines were tapered with. All of this bullshit was created out of thin air because people were so butt hurt Clinton lost (she lost because she sucks)

Reality Winner shared proof with the media outlet Intercept and it got her into prison.

The Republicans and the deplorables are going to be even more obnoxious now.

DL needs to cleanse this site of Alt-Right organization Invaders and Putty's social media legion.

Are they doing this dues free, or do they use Visa cards or PayPal?

It’s worth taking another look at this...

As a Euro gay, you have my sympathies, I would go nuts with all that shit.

It's crazy because the right voters don't believe Hillary was innocent despite the 484245454 hours investigating her, and now the left voters won't believe Trump is innocent despite the Mueller report. How can anybody in the future presidency fix the division among the citizenry ?? I blame the media, personnally. They're the ones misinforming their "base" and creating hopes and hatred then what they "promise" doesn't happen. It has to change.

What was released was a BARR editorial, not the Mueller Report.

Why weren’t Jared, Invanka and other kids not indicted? Makes no sense,

It makes perfect sense, R115. Had Mueller made any moves against the nepotistic Trump hellspawn, Trump would have gone completely third-world dictator, declaring martial law, and having all of his opponents (those upholding the established rule of law) rounded up and arrested. He'd have lost his goddamned mind, what's left of it, and there's no established mechanisms for stopping him - none of this was ever anticipated or prepared for.

Kyle Griffin:

A source with direct knowledge of the investigation told The Daily Beast that it was their interpretation that "Mueller was making a case to Congress, who (unlike DOJ, in Mueller's view) is empowered to weigh the lawfulness of a president's conduct."

David Axelrod:

What the Mueller probe established, according to the AG, is that the Russians hacked the DNC and engaged in an aggressive, covert campaign to influence our election.

So why did @realDonaldTrump stand next to Putin in Helsinki and meekly accept his denials?

Do you think OP has a word document of all the threads?

I read the latest from both Seth Abramson and Rick Wilson, as well as Nadler, and I’m starting to feel a little better.

Tom Nichols: So now I have to read this Barr letter like a Sovietologist?

Lawyers, does it matter that “no U.S. person” is mentioned in dealing with the IRA, and yet that phrase disappears when talking about general election interference and is only “the campaign?”

Why do you care so much, R119?

Fuck...Hasn"t Barr's son taken the job as Dump's 2020 campaign manager?! Bar is, in a word, COMPROMISED. How in the hell can anyone believe a fucking thing he says about the report?!!

The odious Lindsey Graham laid out a game plan for the Republicans in his press conference today –- they’re going to spend the next two years investigating the DOJ and FBI for their handling of the Trump and Clinton cases.

Ah, R124 so basically, their plan is to destroy the intelligence community and prevent them from digging up skeleton's in their little boy closets.

First it was political parties. Now it looks like the entire government is imploding, all branches openly at total war with each other. A Civil War in the White House.

Putin is not a stupid man, it only took a single match.

r123....No....Brad Parscale is the campaign manager....Barrs son is in the white house counsels office....which is worse because its an inside track....and that happened immediately after Barr was confirmed.

With everything Michael Cohen was involved with, and was supposedly sharing with Mueller, I have a hard time believing there were no crimes which implicated Trump. We need that whole report ASAP, not a partisan cherrypicked summary.

TRump’s Twitter is getting a lot more likes and RT. This Mueller fiasco was a disaster for the Democrats. Now I am hearing the raging leftists want to take it to the streets demanding full report and they now hate Mueller!!

Really, R129? You're hearing that all the way over in Moscow?

Yeah, R128, like how he testified he overheard Diaper Baby talking to his son about setting up a meeting?

R122, calm down, mrs. putin, and don't get so triggered if i ask if there's a word document. are you OP and ashamed that you have a "super-secret datalounge" folder on our desktop with a word document listing all the threads?

They pulled the plug because Hope Hicks was gonna spill the T.

That bitch on The View. One day she is enraged because a Rump is bad mouthing her dead daddy the next she is saying the Russian interference was oversold.

Trump appointed defective Whittaker. Trump appointed fawning Barr. Was Mueller shut down?

Veselnitskaya indicted, Klimnik indicted, Manafort guilty, Republican Platform in Ukraine changed, No Russian GOVERNMENT influence. Not even Svetlana believes THAT Boris.

There was a huge amount of cooperation in exchange for light sentences, and what did Mueller get out of it?

That’s my second biggest question too, R136.

Release the fucking report.

So many trolls blocked today..

R132, you're so bothered!

r138 I hope DL visitors are F&Fing them before blocking.

The fact that there are so many trolls posting is proof itself that this isn't over.

They wouldn't bother if they weren't worried.

"Breaking: *Barr and Rosenstein were told 3 weeks ago that Mueller would not be reaching a conclusion on obstruction, per person familiar with meeting who underlined the decision was Mueller’s alone. (Fixes typo, I need to stop tweeting from camera"

From Julia Ainsley's Twitter

THUS TRUMP's TEMPER TANTRUM> HE KNEW.

Mueller has a lot of explaining to do like why he didn't interview Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, and Trump jr..

Beto is still claiming there is collusion in the Mueller report, 48 hours later.

What's the story with Beto? I think he was created as a stalking horse candidate by some forces who don't like Bernie, to take votes away from Bernie.

Thank you, r90.

This is all public information. These people have been indicted for their crimes. Yet there was no collusion? A and B don't connect. If those people are guilty of the crimes they were indicted for, then there was collusion.

Unless the scope of the the question was narrowed to the point where a negative was the only outcome.

Did the campaign systematically collude with the Russian government? Probably not.

Did elements of the campaign collude with Russian entities? Given the indictments, obviously.

Is Trump is hawk to Putin/Russian oligarchs? As far as I can tell, Mueller shunted those cases off to SDNY, so this report doesn't address that.

That's why this gloating today is SO hard to take. It's completely unearned and ignorant of the facts.

Oh, look the WH talking points memo post Mueller report. Looks like our trolls got a copy!

[quote] Why weren’t Jared, Invanka and other kids not indicted? Makes no sense,

Why didn't Mueller even bother to question them, along with Donald Jr. and Brad Parscale, and how can Mueller possibly say that there was no campaign collusion with the Russians when you didn't even interview the major people in the campaign?

It is like he knew they would all lie and then he would have to either charge them or make excuses why he didn't. Same with Trump, no interview because they knew Trump would lie and then they would have to charge him with obstruction which they clearly didn't want to do.

Im holding tight - thinking more comes to light by Thursday/Friday. Fuck all these trolls.

Well they had to try sneaking this by the public. But it doesn’t seem to be working.

And thank fuck for that, R149.

Muellers purview was to establish if Russia interfered in the election, and if any Americans helped them.

Translated....Mueller found and indicted the IRA and GRU agents from Russia....he could not find any direct connections between them and Trump and assoc. MUELLER WAS NOT LOOKING FOR ANY OTHER COLLUSION. HE STATED SO AS QUOTED BY BARR. So all those issues (we hope) were transferred to other districts for potential prosecution.

Michael Avenatti arrested for alleged $20 million extortion attempt against Nike

Manu Raju asked Lindsey Graham if he confronted Trump about McCain attacks, and he revealed McCain came to him with dossier and he urged McCain to give it to the FBI.

"I told the president that it was not John McCain [who spread rumors]. I know because John McCain showed me the dossier," said Graham.

Trump is a lucky bastard

Well, did Lindsay tell McCain to pass it to the FBI?

Did he answer that specific part.

I’m guessing he dodged it.

Somebody should tell the pres that it was Graham who betrayed him.

R153 you are really on to something huge there. Think about it:

Graham is calling for an investigation into the dossier and the surrounding events.

Well his suggestion that McCain take it the feds shows that he too thought it was serious enough to be investigated.

So that would be integral to the events that happened. SO HE WILL BE INVESTIGATING HIMSELF.

LOL. This investigation will never happen because it will ensnare McConnel, who dropped the ball, and Ryan who did nothing and Graham who co-signed the FBI referral by default.

Good catch!

I was never a big Avenatti fan but could recognize that the Right were really bothered by him (hence all the attacks). Looks like they still are.

[quote]Well, did Lindsay tell McCain to pass it to the FBI?

Manu Raju:

Graham added: "I told him that the only thing I know to do with it - could be a bunch of garbage, it could be true. Who knows? Turn it over to somebody whose job it is to find these things out. And John McCain acted appropriately."

Ok so he is as much to blame than anybody else. He didn’t stop it. The deplorables need to know that.

Also, several other republican senators were briefed during the initial warrants. So they will get caught up in it all too.

I just get more angry the more I think about this. They are trying to gaslight an entire country into believing everything we witnessed for two years didn't really happen. Flynn's judge went ballistic over Mueller's leniancy against him and accused Flynn in open court of treason. Why did Mueller give Flynn such a sweeheart deal? Everyone assumed Flynn gave up something huge. It was the only explanation for that deal. And he apparently gave up nothing?

Why didn't Mueller charge Jr and Kusher for lying to Congress? Other people were charged with that. Why did he not even question them?

Trump stood in the Oval Office and told a bunch of Russians he fired Comey because of the Russier stuff and now the heat was off. But that wasn't obstruction? He told us on national TV he fired Comey because of Russia, but that wasn't obstruction?

Trump systematically fired everyone in the upper echelon of the FBI who didn't kiss his ass, and they all just happened to be experts on Russian crime. But I'm sure there's nothing to that. All a coincidence.

And nobody has ever answered the biggest question of why Trump acts beholden to Putin and terrified of him if there's nothing to worry about.

This is bullshit. This is a coverup.

Barr's summary was mainly for the benefit of the moron-in-chief, cuz we all know the orange turd is incapable of digesting anything longer than three pages. Barr peppered his letter with the words "no collusion" and "exonerate", and that was good enough for Shitler.

Congress Didn't Ask for a Summary': Demands to #ReleaseTheFullReport Surge After Barr Letter

"I don't want a summary of the Mueller report. I want the whole damn report," said Sen. Bernie Sanders

So, If Barr knew 3 weeks ago that Mueller would not reach a conclusion as to obstruction, when did he draft his "analysis", and did he inform Trump ?

Mr. Rosenstein, here is your subpoena.

Barr is obstructing justice for his boss. It's so painfully obvious. Barr is acting on behalf of Trump's defense while holding the office of AG.

Someone note the time. I'm noticing the trolls have mostly gone quiet. Evening shift over?

What's going on makes so angry. We have an obviously crooked president, vengeful, hateful, and mean, who was "elected" through dubious means. An investigation was already underway by the FBI, lead by Republican Jim Comey. Later, after Comey was fired, the Special Council, Republican Mueller, was appointed by another Republican, Rob Rosenstein.

Now, it will be open season on Democrats by the vengeful orange shit stain. He will blame liberals for everything when it's Republicans who have been cheating all along. Preventing a Supreme Court seat from being filled by a Democratic president, blocking other judicial appointments until a Republican party was back in power. They are ruthless, cruel, and heartless. There is a cover up going on and the repukes will stop at nothing to destroy our democracy.

I'm not clear on what's going on with Avenatti yet, but the mere fact that a sitting president is taunting him and others is disgraceful. Disparaging a dead war hero, a disable man, a Gold Star family. We're all impediments to his malignant narcissism and the absolute corruption of the republican party.

Now there have been three suicides this week that stemmed from school shootings. The repukes sit stone cold silent on any sort of gun control. Hell, they're happy to have an army of weaponized lunatics, who knows when they'll come in handy. After all, life is only sacred in the embryonic form. Live humans be damned.

I just hope the majority of Americans over run the crooks again in 2020. It's an awful long time to wait for justice while you're watching blatantly shameless hate.

I would really love to know Rosenstein's actual behavior during all this. From what we saw he kow-towed to Congressional Republicans and capitulated to their every demand. He wrote the memo justifying Comey's firing to save his own job. He's a member of that hideous Federalist Society and a huge Kavanaugh backer. And he worked on Starr's team. I never assumed that guy was anything but a typical GOP hack. If he was truly standing up to Trump forcefully over and over how did he keep his job? Everyone else who did that got fired.

Yeah, how does that work with Rosenstein overseeing obstruction when he's the one who wrote the letter and got his job?

Nothing to see here!

[quote]That's why this gloating today is SO hard to take. It's completely unearned and ignorant of the facts.

Well, yes. Liars lie. Trump's now screaming he's totally exonerated, when Barr's summary clearly says Mueller doesn't exonerate Trump from obstruction.

Trump wouldn't even have been able to access the word 'exonerated' if Barr hadn't put it in his stunted head.

Of course Deplorable triumphalism will be stomach-turning. The next rally will be Third Reich-worthy. It's just profoundly to be hoped that all those ongoing investigations listed by Seth Abramson, and the revulsion felt by the global sane, can still eat away at deep smug entitled corruption.

Comey had concerns about Rosenstein, friend says:

"His reservations were palpable. 'Rod is a survivor,' he said. And you don’t get to survive that long across administrations without making compromises. 'So I have concerns,'" Wittes wrote, describing his conversation with Comey.

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But fucking Chris Cuomo knew, he tried to tell us weeks and weeks ago! His bro told him?!

SDNY head was appointed by trump. Whoever is waiting on them to clean up the place might be disappointed in the end.

He is recused from some stuff, but he’s the head of the place, so surely he can wield influence.

We are being gaslighted at every stage. Do not listen to you-know-who’s voice or read the tweets. You are being brainwashed even as a skeptic. It still sinks in.

Let your own voice be your guide. Don’t listen to the right wing if u can help it.

Turn down the sound and you can see it in action. Don’t read the cryons. They are unwitting transports of the deep brainwashing.

It will take a Democratic Administration to release all of the Trump corruption.

Trump Asked Whitaker if He Could Put Ally Prosecutor Geoffrey Berman [SDNY AG] in Charge of Cohen Investigation: Report

President Trump reportedly asked then-acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker late last year if he could make U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York Geoffrey Berman, one of his allies, head of the federal probe into hush-money payments made during the 2016 campaign. The New York Times reports that Whitaker was aware he couldn’t put Berman in charge of the investigation, as the federal prosecutor had already recused himself from it. It’s unclear how Whitaker ultimately responded to Trump’s request, but the president eventually “soured” on the acting attorney general, who was replaced by William Barr last week.

R171, you know who else disliked Rosenstein? Andy McCabe.

“....Southern District of New York Geoffrey Berman, one of his allies...”

Remember that. For those of you who are back to waiting for some justice unicorn to come out of that office.

[quote]So, If Barr knew 3 weeks ago that Mueller would not reach a conclusion as to obstruction, when did he draft his "analysis", and did he inform Trump

Of course Barr told him in advance. That's why Cheeto went to ML with handlers and stayed quiet. Didn't Barr and Rosenstein go to the WH a couple days before that "on an unrelated matter"? Unrelated my ass Everyone's ears pricked on that day.

The website at r174 was active not 5 minutes ago.

Now it’s gone from ABC News.

It had all the deets on SDNY head.

Here it is.

There are some mysteries in what Barr said Mueller said. (Couldn't "establish" collusion, whatever that means in legal terms, and couldn't come to a conclusion about "obstruction"). But Mueller had a VERY narrow mandate. What we have all forgotten is that the rules on Special Prosecutors changed after Ken Starr went after Bill Clinton and Congress took away the right of special prosecutors to expand their mandates beyond the original ones. So what we have is a special prosecutor who uncovered TONS and TONS and TONS of illegal behavior on the part of Trump associates that were outside of his narrow mandate, and which the new rules governing special prosecutors forbade him from prosecuting. Hence the constant referrals to State courts and District Courts. That is now where the action is, and that is where we should be focusing our attention. Mueller sent over lots of evidence to Eastern District of Va, Southern District of NY, and possible to some state attorneys general, (such as the state of NY).

I comfort myself that Al Capone was taken down by a tax evasion charge. There is that and MUCH MUCH MORE on the Trump clan

Sorry to dash your dreams about SDNY coming in on a white horse.

I'm pretty sure Burman will have to recuse himself from every case involving Trump criminality, since Trump appointed him.

Without the full report, there is no justice.

Andy McCabe needs to be rehired by a Democratic Admin to complete his retirement.

Sally Yates would make a GREAT AG for a Democratic President.

Pretty sure doesn’t bring me comfort. He’s the boss.

This whole thing stinks up to high heaven.

Barr is a Trump Toady, plain and simple. Anyone who is jumping on his stupid, three page memo from yesterday as if its the final word on Mueller's investigation is simply BRAIN DEAD. Nothing he stated in his summary memo quotes Mueller at all - it was simply a summation of his (Barr's) interpretation of the report. Which basically means diddly squat.

The ENTIRE report must be released, in full. Congressional leaders can get it first, then the public. Taxpayers paid for it, we can read it. If there is any stonewalling whatsoever regarding its release, the American public should take to the streets in protest. Public pressure works, and will be the only thing that will get this report out there in the end. Don't stop calling your reps, emailing, writing and when called - marching.

I never trusted Rod Rosenstein...or Chris Wray for that matter....

Remember....both Rosenstein AND Kavanaugh worked for Ken Starr. Wray was Chris Christies attorney.

r190 It makes sense for the House Judiciary members to have a copy of the entire report. They shouldn't have to demand it from the DOJ.

Barr was absolutely hired because of his history in absolving Presidents of wrongdoing. We knew a year ago that he wouldn't find obstruction, and would probably bury Mueller's report as far down a deep dark hole as possible.

Did you guys watch 60min yesterday? There was a segment on spy program Pegasus. It's from Israel. Bet Jared had his friends look into all the phones of people working on this case. This spy program can hack into ANY phone in the world.

Barr is going to stonewall in releasing the report. He will claim grand jury testimonies, national security, and executive priviledge to redact much of it. Barr is a Republican "fixer". This isn't about truth and disclosure. It is about moves to protect Trump and his cohorts from justice.

If Barr refuses to cooperate fully, every Democrat should demand he be removed from office.

Anyone think Barr is hot? Top or bottom?

In a strange way, I am more furious with Trump's enablers than Trump himself. Barr, Miss Lindsey, McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, Meadows, etc., know what they have been doing is wrong, but don't care as long as it benefits party over anything else, including the country.

They're all a bunch of traitors!

Roll guillotines!

R195 Barr is gonna play the obstruction angle to the hilt. He is Trump's last defense. He knows it. We know it. In fact, what Barr is doing is further prove Trump is guilty.

R199 *proof

BREAKING: The Wall Street Journal reports that the alleged co-conspirator with Michael Avenatti in the federal extortion case is celebrity attorney Mark Geragos.

Geragos is a CNN legal analyst and also represents Jussie Smollett.

And now the White House is dictating to TV networks which Dems should be put on a Shit List:

NBC is reporting the FBI is ready to brief the Gang of 8 regarding the question of whether Trump is under the influence of a foreign country. The briefing hasn't been scheduled.

I can't forget those jackboot Rudy thugs in the NY Field Office and their years-long effort to destroy Hillary, nor can I forget Wray was appointed by Trump and is cozy with all kinds of Republican filth.

This is what Trump and the GOP's assault on our institutions has done. I don't even trust the current FBI to tell the truth. It makes me really sad.

I think Barr will redact the Mueller report beyond recognition. He will claim Executive Privilege, DOJ Policy on not releasing info about people not indicted, On-going investigations (that we'll never know about) and classified information. We're going to get the four sentence fragments that he provided in his "summary" and Robert Mueller's signature. This will be tied up in court for years - long enough to get past 2020. Mueller or one of the prosecutors who was assisting in the writing needs to start leaking bits and pieces of it and soon.

Fixed the link at R202

R204 Can Dem House Committees interview Mueller and his team directly to get Barr out of the loop? Barr is obviously an obstructionist nuisance.

of course Trump is going to weaponize Barr's summary

that's why it's so damn important that the report gets released. This is ridiculous

Repubs are fucking scum

enough with these scummy old white men

Trick or Treason

You would think at this point there would be people of honor somewhere is the FBI or Secret Service or CIA or somewhere that can start leaking damaging things to try to put a stop to this nightmare. It is so obvious what is going on here with the Russians being in control of Trump and because of that, of the USA. And nothing is being done to prevent it from happening again - even worse - in 2020.

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R206 my understanding is the intel committee can call Mueller to testify and this committee is also legally entitled to the report. Check Adam Schiffs twitter.

Rep jerry Nadler, chair of judiciary, has indicated his committee will call Barr to testify.

I don't have a twitter account. I just read their feeds. For what it's worth, dem senators and Reps are being attacked in their twitter feeds. And it's ugly.

If we don't stand up to this we will not have a country

The ramifications of what is happening is shocking and the response by Dems that maybe you know we'll win in the 2020 show election is dispiriting.

Why is Mueller’s office not responding? If Barr is misleading the public with the conclusions in the report, then why does Mueller’s team not make a public statement?

I’m so confused by all this. I don’t trust Barr. We still haven’t seen even one paragraph from Mueller’s report, and yet Republicans have already started their “exoneration” propaganda.

I’ll be calm and patient until we find out more. At least I’ll try to.

Russia does not control Trump.

Trump is actually aggressive toward Russia.

It's crazy to see how propogandized even critical thinking DL'ers can be.

Lindsey Graham vows to 'get answers'

But he was one of the ones who recommended that it be sent to the FBI.

Please tell me twitter and the media are aware of that.

R211 Short of a coup , there is nothing the Trumpies can do to stop the Dem House from exercising its power to expose this cover up. Pelosi needs to stop being polite with these morons.

[quote]Why is Mueller’s office not responding? If Barr is misleading the public with the conclusions in the report, then why does Mueller’s team not make a public statement?

For what it's worth

[quote]If Barr refuses to cooperate fully, every Democrat should demand he be removed from office.

If Barr refuses to cooperate fully, every Democrat should take their asses to the streets and march peacefully, until they get the report.

Fixed that for you.

He's winning 2020. I'm so depressed.

I am a constituent of one of the House Judiciary Committee members. I emailed her office to show me (i.e. cite law) that the Attorney General is required to give all House Judiciary Committee members a copy of the entire FBI OSC report Mueller delivered to Barr, or that when subpoenaed to appear before Congress, Mueller will furnish the members with a copy of the entire OSC report.

R219 Go start a depression thread. No need to whine here when people are talking about a real political fight still ongoing.

R213 Mueller's office is not responding because Barr's summary is accurate. There's nothing to respond to. You really think he'd allow Barr to shit all over his two years of work? Some here are really deluded. Again.

He reports to Barr. Maybe he has to, at least until he doesn’t work there any more.

Phsssh r222. Mueller's office isn't responding because it's not their place to. Mueller won't speak about anything until he's called to do so , via Congressional summons to testify in front of that body. Has he made one public statement in the entire past two years, to the media or anyone? Come one we're not stupid, keep your crap out of here.

Another investigation will get him where it hurts him the most - financially.

R222 Then release the report so people can see for themselves how "accurate" Barr is. After two years of this lying administration, do you Trumpies still think people will trust a Trump appointee to tell the truth? LOL

R216, I believe Pelosi, Schiff, lieu, nadler and others know they have to move. But the question is enforcement. What happens when Barr refuses to cooperate with the house?

R220, I bet it's the house intelligence committee that gets the report. I base my knowledge on Adam Schiffs tweet of March 22. He states by law the evidence mueller uncovered must be shared with the intel committee. So maybe it's not the report. I'll take the evidence.

The letter the committee sent cited statuary obligations. I read that as legally required. I linked to the twitter account. Apologies ahead of time if it doesn't work.

I think R218 is right. Move on. Org and indivisible are organizing nation wide protests.

R222, something that’s incomplete can’t be accurate. You can’t summarize your opinion on Mueller’s findings and claim that you’re telling the whole story. That’s even more delusional.

[quote] Russia does not control Trump.

[quote] Trump is actually aggressive toward Russia.

I've seen no information that would verify these claims, especially the second one.

R229, that's because you watch MSNBC.

Trump has a cabal of neocons around him now wanting to steal Venezuela's oil and then start a war in Iran both options Russia is vehemently against since it will ruin their bottom line. Trump also increased sanctions on Russia. Trump sent missiles into Syria twice to attack the Assad government over the chemical gas attacks . Why would he do that if he were working for Putin?

Trump working for Russia is the propoganda myth that just won't die

R228 I am sure R222 thinks there was nothing to investigate in the first place! So anything a Trump stooge like Barr spews in Trump's defense would be "accurate" by default.

"Trump is actually aggressive toward Russia."

мой член, твой мудак.

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For R230.

I don’t know about the 2nd bombing in Syria but wasn’t the first done on non targets ?

On tv news, it’s become fashionable for Democrats and pretty progressives to assert Trump will win re-election in 2020.

R213 we will see, but my guess is that there's a lot of wishful thinking going on. Even Trump says he's in favour of the report being revealed. I say Barr's report will be found to be accurate.

Republican members of Congress are also now calling on Schiff to resign, and the Trump admin sent a letter to news stations telling them which Democrats shouldn't be on TV anymore while Lindsey is firing up his committee to investigate everyone from Hillary to Obama.

Democrats in Congress need to take off the goddamn kid gloves and fight back hard starting right now.

Be aware, DJT, WH, Lindsey Graham, Tea Party Congressmen, are already signaling, or outright indicating, they intend to embark on vendettas. They have an enemies list. Miz Lindsey again declared she plans for Senate Judiciary Committee hearings to investigate FISA warrants per Carter Page, the FBI investigators, the Steele Dossier, Fusion Analytica,and again Hillary Clinton's Emails. Graham demand a Special Counsel for that. There is a campaign to discredit Adam Schiff and others. Trump's adversaries such as Bezos/WP, will experience renewed attacks with Barr at DoJ. Kushner will be doing more of what he's been doing with foreign entities. He's got the green light. A more dangerous period is being entered.

[quote] A more dangerous period is being entered.

You are correct.

[quote]I don’t know about the 2nd bombing in Syria but wasn’t the first done on non targets ?

Yes, and Russia was notified beforehand.

It certainly would not be Russian enthusiasm about Trump’s decision to end U.S. adherence to the Intermediate Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty. The Kremlin reacted firmly to that action and warned that Washington’s withdrawal from the INF Treaty would compel Russia to develop new missiles.

It is also unlikely that Russia is happy about the Trump administration’s approval of two major arms sales to Ukraine.

Given the Kremlin’s hostility to the expansion of NATO’s membership (a stance that existed even before Putin became president), Trump’s alleged master cannot be pleased that his agent endorsed the admission of Montenegro to the alliance and is adopting the same view of Macedonia’s impending bid.

R241, duh.

Would you want WW3?

Obama did the same thing and informed Russians of American strikes.

r240 Yes. This all started within the past two hours. It's coordinated. This is not something to ignore.

Moscow must be even more unhappy about the Trump administration’s failure to back off from Washington’s stated goal to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO—a move that Russians across the political spectrum regard as an intolerable provocation.

It would be peculiar if Putin was pleased about the frequent rotating deployments of U.S. warplanes and military personnel to NATO members on Russia’s border. Indeed, the rotations are now so frequent that they amount to an ongoing U.S. presence in all but name.

Given the reports that U.S. officials are now in serious negotiations with Warsaw to build a permanent military base (which the Polish president offered to name “Fort Trump” in a transparent appeal to the U.S. president’s notorious vanity) in eastern Poland near the border with Russia; Putin’s “puppet” appears to be out-of-control.

Post at R237 meant for R231

Sarah Sanders: "They literally accused the President of the United States of being an agent for a foreign government. That's equivalent to treason. Thats punishable by death in this country."

I think Sarah needs a refresher course on what constitutes treason.

That problem also is apparent with respect to Trump’s treatment of Moscow’s would-be allies and client states. Russia has deployed its own military forces to Syria to help Bashar al-Assad retain his precarious hold on power. Yet Trump has continued to back opposition forces, and he launched missile strikes against Assad’s air force in response to his regime’s supposed use of chemical weapons. Other attacks on Syrian government positions have apparently killed approximately two hundred Russian nationals working as contractors and mercenaries.

The Kremlin has pursued a policy of trying to forge close economic and even military ties with Venezuela’s leftist government headed by Nicolas Maduro. Conversely, the Trump administration has clearly embarked on a regime-change campaign to oust Maduro. Trump himself has insisted that all options (implicitly including a military intervention) remain on the table regarding that goal. It’s hard to square such an aggressive stance toward Russian clients like Assad and Maduro with the actions of someone dedicated to appeasing Moscow, much less someone operating as a Russian agent.

It is long past time to scorn the “Trump is Putin’s puppet” allegation for the preposterous myth that it is. In reality, the Trump administration has pursued a disturbingly hardline policy toward Russia, deepening an already worrisome new cold war. It is uncertain whether Trump’s stance is an effort to fend-off accusations of treason or if it merely reflects a dangerous herd mentality in Washington about relations with Moscow.

She is a total MORON r247. Accusing the POTUS of anything is not treasonous. My god did she really say it was punishable by death?

I hope she's the first to hang then, when this entire house of cards comes a tumbling.

Look for them to try to implement some Queen Carlotta lèse-majesté bullshit.

Treason is punishable by death and Trump was falsely accused of being treasonous.

Those words might end up haunting Ms. Huckabeast.

[quote]Treason is punishable by death and Trump was falsely accused of being treasonous.

And your stupid point? So what, he's also been accused of being fat, a liar, whore-chaser, and myriad other sundry things. Accusing him of being a Russian tool is the least of it all.

Accusing the POTUS of treason, whether true or not, is not treason in ITSELF. Lay off the dummy Kool-Aid please.

R230, I don't watch cable news.

[quote] Trump also increased sanctions on Russia.

No he didn't. His administration has lifted sanctions on Russian oligarchs, and he refused to implement new sanctions that were unanimously approved by congress.

Trump is a Russian asset. That's not a myth. That's a stone cold fact.

Trump himself falsely bore witness against a sitting POTUS when he accused Obama of not being born in the US. Remember that folks? THAT is treasonous, by the dummy definition put forth here. So by that thinking, Trump she be readied for hanging. Who's got the noose?

I mean, Trump was caught with his mouth in Putin’s ass during their meeting in Helsinki. I don’t care about Barr or Mueller. Trump is a traitor.

And we all saw Trumpito stick his tongue up Putim's butt on live tv.

SHS appears to be selliing her treason accusations to people with the attention span of a gnat.

Trump would praise Hitler if he could. He's an idiot who talks out of his ass and clearly admires strong authoritarian leaders.

That doesn't translate to collusion or treason. Personally I don't think Trump ran to win in the first place. I think he ran for attention and to start a news network. The Trump victory was a shock win to everyone including the Kremlin. Everybody was preparing for HRC to be Madam President. Everybody. Fox News and the Republicans were already starting creating bullshit narratives and scandals to undermine her.

He won because Americans are racist and stupid just like him not because Putin was some maniacal madman who was tampering with voting machines and hacking the DNC emails. John Podesta fell for a phishing scam and gave his email password away which is how Wikileaks got its hands on DNC emails.. The DNC refuses to hand over its server to the FBI to this day because they know there really was no foreign hack. It was Hillary's dinosaur camp's own stupidity and lack of tech savvy that led to getting their emails leaked

Time for Democrats to man up and play hardball. Adam Schiff needs to tell Kellyanne to fuck herself with a rusty railroad spike.

Don't forget. Wasn't it W Bush who famously said he looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul? He said he was a good man.

Trump's words cant be taken as a symbol of collusion or treason. You would need a modicum of intellect and foresight that I don't even think Trump has in order to "collude" for anything.

Good for Eric Swalwell. He just said on CNN 'if Trump is so sure I've been lying then sue me'.

McConnell blocks Schumer measure calling for Mueller report to be made public

Turtle afraid of the truth.

WH official confirms WH has still not seen the full Mueller report.

R265, then how the duck do they claim that Trump was exonerated and Sanders is even calling for Schoff’s head to roll?

How stupid, disgusting, and corrupt are Trump and his minions?

THIS is what collusion looks like.

That’s not “duck” and “Schiff’s”. I don’t type well when I’m angry.

In a preview of the insanity to come, GOP rep compares Dems, media to Hitler:

In a speech Monday on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives, Congressman Mo Brooks quoted Adolf Hitler to describe the attacks President Trump faced from “socialist Democrats and their fake news media allies” during the Mueller investigation.

"For more than two years, Socialist Democrats and their fake news media allies -- CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, Washington Post, and countless others -- have perpetrated the biggest political lie, con, scam and fraud in American history," Brooks, R-Huntsville, said in the speech.

"Attorney General (William) Barr’s executive summary of Mueller’s Report has publicly confirmed what many of us have known for a long time. The accusations of collusion between President Trump and Russia in the 2016 elections are nothing but a Big Lie!"

Hitler wrote about the "Big Lie" in his book "Mein Kampf."

This thread is everything you need to know regarding Barrs letter and the Mueller report.....

Remember when Congress released the Starr report on President Clinton, down to the very last gory detail? I do.

Congress 2019, we're waiting.

Mueller's timing was impeccable.

The press corps has a few days to slobber and speculate over Barr's slanted "letter" about it.

Just when they're running out of steam - I testify on Wednesday.

Whatever restaurant Barr & Huckabee Sanders go to for a celebration, one hopes taxpayers won't be footing the bill. Those two can put it away.

They should release the report and get it over with!

Never forget, Republican individuals got the ball rolling with the Special Council. The FBI under Comey and Rosenstein in the DOJ because they observed suspicious activity. For anyone with eyes and ears who isn't blinded by the orange cult knows trump and allies for what they are, liars and con men.

Trump and his allies will intentionally forget that and pin it on the Democrats. They are beyond despicable with their lies and dirty deals.

Shock Claim: Clinton Team Hatched ‘Blame Russia’ Plan Within 24 Hours Of Loss – Resulted In 675 Day Mueller Investigation

r272...already delayed according to Adam Schiff....they want to focus on Barr and Muellers report first.....

Do you miss me now?

Mitch McConnell blocked Schumer's resolution demanding the release of the Mueller Report. It must be much worse than Barr is letting on.

Lisa Desjardins @LisaDNews · 4h NEW FROM GRAHAM (icymi): - He saw the Steele dossier before McCain sent it to DOJ - B/c John McCain showed it to him, get advice. - He advised McCain to forward it to authorities, which he did nxt day. - Graham said he told this to Trump, who has blamed McCain for the dossier

R277 I don't understand why they can't do both at the same time. I also don't understand why the hell they didn't subpoena Mueller TODAY (reports are he could be subpoenaed as early as this week). There are multiple committees with multiple staffs. Do more than one thing at a time.

Who knew? Jeff Sessions had more principals.

This thread from 2017, tells how Robert Mueller handled the NFL/Ray Rice case. I found it interesting and thought some of you would too.

Just when you think the corruption couldn't get deeper. The rightwing is corrupt so deeply and thoroughly they go apeshit defending this vile, scumbag we have as Pres. We've been seeing Pres Bone Spurs obstructing with our own fucking eyes in various, over the top ways for years.

Our own oligarchs aren't allowing this. THEY would go down as well. Look at the tentacles that ran to the NRA. It all runs to the Mercers, Kochs and beyond.

Barr is a disgusting piece of treasonous SHIT.

Fuck these trolls. May karma visit them soon.

Who the fuck is Seth Abramson and why do people on these threads insist on posting shit from some no-name blogger posting from his mother's basement? This guy is cited on these threads as some sort of expert on everything, another pundit constantly spewing Trump's doom is just a few minutes away.

And yet, Trump is still here and ain't going away any time soon.

Say that is Russian, R285. Oh he will be going away. Just fucking watch. His little minion can spin away all he wants but Mueller didn't absolve him in any way, bitch.

A few of his voters work with me. Not a word. I asked one what he thought. He said, "Well, it said it didn't fully exonerate him so I want to see the whole thing first. I don't believe anybody right now."

From the twitter on Mueller and his handling of the NFL/ Ray Rice: Dave Zirin @EdgeofSports · May 19, 2017 He also found fault with Goodell and NFL, while fundamentally preserving all the power players. He was a deodorizer not an exterminator 2 14 73

Dave Zirin @EdgeofSports · May 19, 2017

R297 Turkey necked Turtle is fucking scum. I wish he would fucking croak

thank goodness the House can just subpoena it on its own without needing Senate though that would be nice

I think Mueller found plenty of evidence but didn't feel it was his place to bring a president down. When Barr read it and found out how bad it was he went to full on damage control. He knew if Congress saw it, Trump would be a goner.

R289 That seems about right. All the lines of investigation Mueller was following have netted crooks from Trump's circle. Just using Cohen's confessions alone can topple Trump if the compromised DOJ isn't actively coddling the criminal.

Not sure if it was mentioned already but Trump sent a blacklist of people who had criticized him and spoke about the Russian connections to various networks, telling them not to give them any further airtime ever again. Just another horrible side effect of the Mueller report.

Blacklisting journalists ... where have I seen that happen before?

and Swalwell, who's on that list said if Trump wants to sue, he'd be ready to go to court since Trump has lied about Russia, not any of those on the list.

Swalwell is not intimidated and I doubt anyone else on the list is either

[quote] Hitler wrote about the "Big Lie" in his book "Mein Kampf."

Hitler was a piker.

Since May 2017, 𝟱𝟯𝟯,𝟬𝟳𝟰 𝘄𝗲𝗯 𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗹𝗲𝘀 have been published about Russia and Trump/Mueller, 𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗲𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝟮𝟰𝟱 𝗺𝗶𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀 — including likes, comments and shares — on Twitter and Facebook, according to data from social-media analytics company NewsWhip.

ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts produced a combined 𝟮,𝟮𝟴𝟰 𝗺𝗶𝗻𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗼𝗳 “𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻” 𝗰𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗴𝗲

From January 1 through March 21 of this year, the spin of Trump coverage on the evening newscasts has been 92% negative vs. just eight percent positive

And of course CNN and MSNBC have been 24/7 obsessed, minus a few days for David Hogg..

I'm waiting to see the numbers SNL and all the carbon copy late night shows like Kimmel.

R291 These networks will be sued if they go along with such politically motivated repression.

The kickback to Cheetolini will be delicious. I hope he strokes out by Easter.

These repugs deserve karma for smearing Hillary.

[quote]These networks will be sued if they go along with such politically motivated repression

I'm rather interested if the networks will sue Cheetolini for their 1st Amendment rights.

McConnell has blocked a Democratic measure requesting the Mueller report be released in full to the public.

The media is still entralled with Miss Lindzey. From leading "lock her up" chants at Mar-a-Lago, to having a press conference today covered fully by MSNBC, she makes herself top surrogate for Trump. She gets away with it all without being confronted.

NEW: Six House committee chairs have sent a letter to Attorney General William Barr requesting he submit to them the full report by Robert Mueller by April 2.

I have to say, all the whispers about the report coming out in February were close to accurate — it just came out that Barr and Rosenstein took three weeks to weigh the obstruction issue, which means their offices for sure had the report in February. Whatever.

This just brings us full circle, as it ALWAYS has, that every single droplet, each molecule, all the atoms in your being, all the energy you have, *must* be directed toward winning elections. I am also (currently) all in for Mayor Pete. Now is the time to start putting your energy into 2020. Trump will do everything possible to win, and if the election occurred today, he might win. We *must* keep the message focused on why our policies are better for both individuals and for the country as a whole.

Can someone remind me again how this asshole Barr got in? I know we don’t have the votes, but I don’t recall Dems giving him hell either when he was nominated. I am really devastated and disheartened, everything seemed to be pointing toward justice!!! What the FUCK happened?? Like we got a tease of Mueller’s laser focus and unparalleled ability to wield the full power of our federal government, and then, it just fizzled.....it does *not* make any sense. None of it!!!! I would give all I have to know what Michael Cohen is thinking today. I would be absolutely terrified if I were him, I really would. He’s got to be shitting his pants wondering what the fuck Putin pulled to make this happen, and what they’re going to do to him now. Bobby Three Sticks lets Cohen put his life on the line for.....what?

Right now, the Dems need to hear that we are still behind them. They are licking their wounds too, we need to make sure they know that they have our support *and* they better not even toy with the idea of letting this go. They can do two things at once — pass policies AND have keep working on this.

And yes r300, I agree with you, I cannot believe Lindsey is still kicking too. I have never seen deeper corruption, they all disgust me. This country belongs to us too, fuck the GOP.

Tweet by Lucy Prebble:

The real tragedy for Trump wouldn’t be impeachment or even indictment. It would be for related investigations to uncover his laundering and financial crimes, for him to fail to be re-elected, and for him to return to a collapsed company.

Well, SNL should be interesting this coming weekend.

If the House gets to see the Mueller Report, would they be seeing the whole thing or the redacted version? I get that there is stuff in there about how info is collected that shouldn’t be made public. But if it is released then the redactions should be made by an equal number of Democrats and Republicans from the gang of eight. It can’t just be left up to Barr.

It's just maddening that Trump, repubs and Fox "News" at every fucking turn get to keep spinning their lies and propaganda. The Barr summary is now leading to the biggest spin so far as it is seen as "the final word" by many casual news viewers. Nothing will change until we get the fucking report and the facts in it. So this is going to be a very shitty week for the truth.

I might just skip the week in terms of the cable shows, might only watch Washington Week on PBS on Friday night.

We need to win the Senate (and the WH!!!) in 2020. Then the Dems must *immediately* reactivate the Fairness Doctrine, that will shut down Fox. This *must* happen, our lives depend on it.

r307....that wont be much better.

Obviously the Mueller Report has extensive, critical content contrary to Barr's editorialized letter. Barr and cohorts have something to hide. Several Republican Congressmen, such as Jim Jordan, claims Barr releasing nothing further is satisfactory if he so chooses.

Mueller played us all. He never intended to make the connection.

[quote] Well, SNL should be interesting this coming weekend.

Why start now ?

[quote] Can someone remind me again how this asshole Barr got in?

R302 Barr slipped in because he's a corporate whore and thus palatable to most of official Washington. And he had already held the job once, so they couldn't get him on a lack of experience. His tenure during the Poppy Bush years was not marked by the current political rancor, so he didn't leave office with a lot of ill will against him. Plus, there's only so much hell that an opposing party can raise when they are in the minority and have no real ability to block a nominee.

All the Dems voted against him, except for Jones, Manchin, and Sinema. Not sure there was much more that they could have done.

No r311. You can say that *after* we read the report, but not before. Half our population is mentally retarded, let’s not add to it, shall we?

Republican tactic: Claim they support the disclosure of the Mueller Report, deleting what Barr sees what needs to be redacted; then taking the initiatives to help delay or prevent such release.

R313 thank you r313, and I agree, they couldn’t do much more — though sometimes I wonder if we are just victims of our own goodness. Like, if we swapped parties, you know damn well the GOP would have done something truly dirty to keep him out.

Is the press no longer fake now that it has been declared there was no collusion?

Right r317? What about how Bob Mueller is a dirt bag Democrat who is crooked and hates America, yeah??

Is everyone suffering from short-term memory lost?

There have been multiple indictments from this admin! A few weeks ago M Cohen was in a public hearing, bawling he was about to hauled off to prison for lying for his former POS client.

short-term memory loss!

What’s your god damned POINT r319?

So Adam Schiff is supposed to yield to Republican pressure and resign... for what?

I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure I understand...

Also, what about the plea deals? What about the countless attacks from Trump???

Let’s pretend for one moment that Trump didn’t collude with Russia. What other reason could he possibly have to constantly, DAILY, be attacking Mueller?!?!? I’ll wait.

I'm confused, why do they need Senate approval to release the full report?

Everyone keeps saying Mueller didn't uncover anything.... but again, how do we know this? This is all being decided because of Barr's summary?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Barr's summary included NO actual quotes from Mueller's report, correct?

So, as far as we know what we see in Barr's summary isn't what Mueller actually reported, but Barr's own interpretation of the report, and whether or not BARR feels like any of the evidence Mueller and team uncovered meets the threshold of what he (Barr) interprets as a crime, right?

And as Barr has already shown, he believes Drumpf should be able to get away with whatever he wants because nothing he does is criminal activity.

Therefore, if Mueller's report said, "Dotard requested and received the help from a foreign entity," Barr could have determined that he didn't feel that met HIS definition of collusion, right?

It smells like a cover-up... Usually the cover-up is worse than the crime, but in Trump's case, his crimes must be far worse than this silly transparent cover-up.

This will spin into a scandal in no time.

Surely Mueller watches the news. If the Barr letter was incorrect, why the hell doesn’t he open his mouth and correct the situation? He’s a repuke. Never trusted him in the first place. The fix is in.

Mueller is busy watching Barr hang himself.

We are living through Stupidgate, people.

The battle line is drawn. It seems Barr and McConnell are Trump's last two lines of defense.

Didn't Watergate go something like this?

Trump's only hope to avoid prison is to win reelection, by whatever means necessary, and run out the clock.

Barr quoted four partial sentences from the report. He quotes half a sentence from the Mueller report which states that they found no evidence the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government despite many attempts and offers of help by Russians.

But Junior got an email basically saying "so the Russian government wants to give you dirt on Hillary" and he responded "I love it" then had a meeting in Trump Tower with a bunch of Russians.

Barr doesn't let us know what the outcome of that meeting was. Mueller possibly explains that it was really all a ruse to talk about adoptions, they offered dirt but none materialized, it was a setup, it was actually Muppets, not the Russian government. We don't know. Because they won't release the report.

We don't know why they all lied repeatedly about meeting with Russians if they were doing nothing wrong.

It may not be collusion, but we sure haven't been told exactly what it was then.

Mueller did not exonerate Trump on the charge of obstruction. He declined to make a decision. He probably intended for Congress to handle that, but good old Barr stepped in and nipped that in the bud himself. Barr exonerated Trump on that, not Mueller.

This isn't over. It's nothing but a good old-fashioned GOP coverup and I don't think it's going to work this time.

R334 It's a very clumsy and silly coverup. It's all based on the AG's bully pulpit to obfuscate/delay. The aim might be to saturate the the idiotic media with that "exonerated" disinformation. But even that will dissipate with more scrutiny since nothing about this ruse passes the smell test.

Former Congressional Intern...

Any word from your contact in the government????

hopefully something leaks before 4/2.

Barr couldn’t have lied too hard. Mueller will testify to congress.

𝗝𝗼𝗵𝗻 𝗕𝗿𝗲𝗻𝗻𝗮𝗻 𝗳𝗼𝗹𝗱𝘀.

After previously insisting there was collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia, former CIA Director John Brennan completed his 180 on the issue today by admitting he “suspected there was more than there actually was.”

“I don’t know if I received bad information, but I think I suspected there was more than there actually was,” Brennan told MSNBC’s Morning Joe earlier today.

The former top intelligence official also expressed that he is “relieved that it’s been determined there was not a criminal conspiracy with the Russian government over our election,” adding that Robert Mueller‘s findings — which were, in part, released by Attorney General William Barr yesterday — are “good news for the country.”

Brennan has previously suggested he had special information on the investigation, claiming in a March 5 TV hit that “Friday is the day that the grand jury indictments come down,” and insisted that Trump’s claims of no collusion between his campaign and Russia were “hogwash.”

ABC News Senior National Correspondent Terry Moran called out the ex-CIA head for deceiving the public.

“John Brennan has a lot to answer for—going before the American public for months, cloaked with CIA authority and openly suggesting he’s got secret info, and repeatedly turning in performances like this,” Moran wrote on Twitter.

R338 Barr is throwing himself under the bus because the Mafia boss demanded exoneration! He's taking one for Team Trump/GOP 2020. He's not the first one to do so, nor will he be the last.

Rachel just speculated that perhaps Mueller punted on the obstruction case to protect future prosecutions after Trump left office. This is after she strongly suggested Mueller meant to leave it for Congress. Either way Bill Barr is terrible.

So why is Brennan folding?

R339, hey, remember when Trump rescinded Brennan's security clearance and everyone lost their minds?

Barr looks like Ralphie.

Rachel is hurting my brain tonight.

You all can believe what you want but nothing will ever convince me that Trump is not one big fat fucking CROOK!

The longer the full report is hidden, stonewalled, etc the more and more Barr's handling of it fails the smell test. I mean come on, if the report indeed exonerates -- then what would be the problem in releasing it, hm????

And nothing takes away from the fact that Trump is absolutely wretched President, R. 346.

[QUOTE] You all can believe what you want but nothing will ever convince me that Trump is not one big fat fucking CROOK!

So there! Humph!!!

I still can’t believe that only one man gets to read the report and issue a summary.

what the hell?

Barr can only hold back for so long.....it will be delicious to watch him go down on an obstruction charge himself as payback for the shit hes pulling now as well as the shit he pulled under Bush 1......Nixons AG went down too.

In referring to the Democrats and the press today, Trump actually used the word "treasonous". Also, some of the major talking points from the right-wing are "time to investigate the investigators", "throw them in jail", etc. Wouldn't be surprised if there is a rash of violence in the immediate future.

Where is our present day Daniel Ellsberg?

You just know the WAPO and the NY Times would push the other over a cliff in order to get its hands on a copy and then promptly publish it, barely redacted.

R349 = Homophobe

Actually R354 I’m as gay as a cricket.

Keep in mind Republicans are pushing no collusion which doesn't mean there isn't something incredibly shady going on with Putin and Trump anyway. We'll see what comes from that.

Either there is something financial or otherwise Trump is afraid of, or he's just a sniveling little coward. We've watched him literally cower in Putin's presence repeatedly for two years. Apparently the press has totally forgotten that.

I wouldn't be surprised if Avenatti is the first of his revenge against his "political opponents."

Well, we all know Rethugs do not think anything of selling America off for cash. That's no crime in their eyes!

R355, doesn't matter. Your comment was classic homophobia.

deplorables are more insufferable than ever today with the Barr summary, Golan Heights and Avenatti's arrest.

I really hope something big happens this week to counter their dishonest, despicable narrative

New DOJ filing recommends dismantling the entire Affordable Care Act

Serious question: Let’s say a newspaper gets a hold of Mueller’s report. What would be the legal ramifications if they published it? Could they face charges, and if so, what would they be? Would the release be protected by the First Amendment?

The report has grand jury information in it. Violating Federal Criminal Rule 6(e) regarding the secrecy of grand jury materials is very serious business. You're not supposed to get your hands on that except under certain limited circumstances, and you sure as hell cant publish it.

At this point, apart from a few sentence fragments, we do not know what the report has in it.

Quelle surprise! McConnell blocks a resolution in The Senate calling for release of the report!

r336 She replied to my text saying, "So busy. Will get back to you when I learn more. Fast moving. Shocking to see the media eat this up from his own AG's opinion."

And yes, with the Avenatti arrest, look for more of this. Coincidence????????

I wonder when they'll start locking up journalists for insulting Trump?

Anddddd....mere hours after Trump crows he was completely exonerated Rudy goes on TV and says no he wasn't he just wasn't proven guilty because...he didn't have to be exonerated? I don't know. Very confusing. These assholes are going to talk themselves out of the win.

The thing that saddens me most about this is the Republicans are going to be so emboldened. I can only hope they destroy themselves. But that's a verdict for the country to deliver and we know how much we can count on those idiots.

This will not move the needle much with independents. They hated him BEFORE all of this. He is the biggest snowflake baby coward to ever slosh into the WH.

R298, the First Amendment does not give network news organizations the legal right to try to oust a POTUS by promoting a false and seditious narrative.

Public trust in the Mainstream Media will evaporate in the weeks to come. The news networks will have to fire everyone who pushed the Russian Collusion Agitprop if they ever hope to re-gain the viewers' trust.

r371 Morning in Moscow? How is that shithole country this morning? All your kids doing porn because, well, there are no opportunities in Russher? Bwhahahahahahaha BYE TROLL

R369 What does it matter? It's not like there's an election next week. Let them have their idiotic cheers now....the roof will cave in on them soon enough.

ffs r371 GET OUT OF HERE with that crap. No one is going anywhere. Jesus. "False and seditious narrative" - what tf do you call the continued bleating of that idiot Huckabee Sanders and blonde corpse Conway all day on our airwaves, spewing falsehood after lie after falsehood for months on end? Are they going to get the axe too - goody give us a front seat. Let's not get started on the traitor Hannity and the entire cabal over at Fox not-news.

Yeah that's right CRICKETS from you.

r371....ARE YOU FUCKING HIGH ? We saw with our own eyes, we heard with our own ears some of the shit Trump has done....he did it right out in the open....so take that media spun a false narrative bullshit and go fuck yourself. Trump WILL go down....as will all those around him....count on it. If you dont recognize that, then you need to check yourself into an institution because you are too stupid to live.

Guys, guys, 371 is a fucking troll. I blocked it and will never see its bad attempts at provocation. I have blocked at least 90 something trolls in the last 3 days alone.

R367 They don't have to do that. What they do instead right now is just look the other way when a few journalists get hassled by mob style intimidation tactics. This way you don't have to resort to anything extreme and it's effective at making other reporters too fearful to report some things.

I know I am gonna get killed for this, but I think the Dems have to let Mueller go. There's so much more to bring this guy down with... there will be so much more... he is his own worst enemy. The Dems need to attack from safer ground: cages, fake national emergencies, taxes. They can still use the Mueller report as a basis but they need to stop talking about it. It just feeds the Rethuglican narrative that is emerging. People are weary of Mueller, aren't they? The Dems need to start cutting the ground out from under the Republicans on a policy basis, like health care. I just feel the Mueller fatigue could boomerang.

Of course R371 is a troll.

For all trolls like him, I'll repeat: let's see the media org's sue the government for infringing on their freedom of speech aka imposing on them bans on interviewing people. The latter is straight from Moscow.

Reading R371's recent posts made me nauseous. He's a total Russian Bot.

You proud ans willfully ignorant people will learn much in the weeks to come.

I read your posts, and I stand by my nausea. So, is Russian your first language, or whatever they speak in Moldova?

Hello Russian trolls, enjoy this Putin image that is illegal in your country!

What about all the Michael Cohen recordings?

Barr said he would release everything from the report that he could - is that only 4 pages? Really?

Let's hope the SDNY moves swiftly to indict Don Jr, Ivanka, Jared and maybe even Eric.

Tiffany and Baron won't mind

Payback is a bitch. The people who promoted the Russian Collusion Hoax are going to be radioactively toxic going forward.

Someone explain to me how the Cohen recordings, the huge trove of shit taken from Roger Stone's home, and other bits of evidence are not permissible to be heard or seen by the public. How would they constitute any 'threat' to current sources/methods or other ongoing CI/criminal investigations?

R378 The thing is, I've watched several town halls and speeches from Democratic candidates and I don't remember Mueller or Russia being mentioned much at all. The focus is on heatlhcare, education, taxes, etc. And tonight's announcement the GOP is once again going to try to take away healthcare will just light even more of a fire under Democrats.

I want the truth. I'll keep pushing for it. I don't want the GOP to get away with yet one more coverup. I want to know if my President is a foreign agent, an unwitting dupe or what the hell is going on. But I can focus on the other things, too.

What will releasing the full report do if the summary is no collusion?

Is there something damning in there that we don't know because releasing the full report and having that be a big dud too will only mean an even bigger political win for Trump? Don't fall for the trap. Releasing the full report may backfire if it's anything like the conclusions Mueller sent in.

At this point, nothing short of an arrest warrant or articles of impeachment for Donald Trump should be hyped up. We see what the hype machine has done. It advanced everyone's expectations.

Good, R388, because your POTUS has just been exonerated of being a foreign agent.

Fuck Tim Murtaugh and his kook brigade r386. He's only Trump's re-election campaign director, he's not a high level official or federal agency mandarin. Jesus.

I bet 90% of the recipients of that silly memo did exactly what I would have done - laughed and crumpled it up to the trash. As if people need to start taking order from Herr Dumpf's new "Manafort-in-waiting" lol. Look what happened to the last one - oh that's right, he's currently in PRISON awaiting final sentencing for many years in the poke for his multitude of CRIMES.

[quote]We see what the hype machine has done. It advanced everyone's expectations.

And it utterly destroyed the credibility of the Mainstream Media for years to come into the bargain.

R386 is fucking chilling. Things are getting scarier. Is that LEGAL? Can they actually do that?

R386 is another broken record Russian Bot, same message, same GOP talking point over and over.

r392

The press is in on this scam known as dump and forfeited their credibility long ago.

Dump was treated with kid gloves all throughout his candidacy and never called out on his lack of personal achievement, public service and military inexperience, multiple bankruptcies, multiple wives, compromised interests, and general boorishness.

If it's all over and Trump won yada yada why are the trolls so damn thick in here the past few days?

[quote]We see what the hype machine has done. It advanced everyone's expectations.

It advanced expectations because they were justified in being advanced. FFS - the Barr memo (aka Trump Toady toliet paper) was ONE PERSON'S summary of the Mueller report. That one person being a hired employee of Trump himself, and a Repub operative and loyal foot solider of many decades. You're going to believe the report exonerates POTUS based on that three page summary??

Those here who are just rolling over and taking Barr and RR's word on the this should wallow in all the misery they deserve. Because they are stupid, to be frank. I'll wait to see the report itself and what it says - and we WILL see it, come hook or crook. The little game of Keepaway these people have started will not be allowed for long; this isn't 30 years ago and Iran Contra. We have a newer, younger generation of far savvier folks out here who won't be pushed over so easilty.

[quote]Dump was treated with kid gloves all throughout his candidacy

That is a ridiculous assertion.

R396, I think it's some coordinated social media offensive. There've been about a million posts on Reddit with the same GOP talking points. Sometimes it's like they're copy & pasted between here and there. I think this might have been all prepared beforehand, just waiting for Mueller to deliver the report.

^which tells you they're still worried about something.

The treason is about to hit the fan.

I've always wondered why they care so much about little ol' us here at Datalounge.

BTW trolls....the GOP attempt at a fascist coup which they rolled out around 2 this afternoon was noticed. It won't work. At least one Democratic Congressman has been on TV all night telling you motherfuckers to bring it on. Schiff isn't going anywhere, either. The Senatrice announced it was his fault the dossier got to the FBI. Rudy is babbling incoherently. Media is starting to become more pointed on the Barr report. Your coverup isn't going as well as you think it is. Republicans just lit a fuse by threatening people's healthcare. And your Dear Leader is a pathologically lying narcissistic sociopath who will be involved in three more scandals by next week. Have a nice evening.

David Frum was good on Lawrence tonight. He makes the point that the Barr report doesn’t change the fact that Trump is a security risk and unfit to be President.

I know a guy who runs a skeleton of a website for an old magazine. He says he gets constant signup requests from Russia. I think of that when someone says DL is too small for them to bother with.

We were told about this months ago.

[quote] R317: is the press no longer fake now that it has been declared there was no collusion?

Actually, Mueller found that he didn’t have sufficient evidence for more convictions, not that there was no collusion.

[quote]Is that LEGAL? Can they actually do that?

It's not legal. Yes they can - when did illegality ever stop them?

R403, David Frum was a hard-core peddler of the Saddam Hussein has WMDs lie. He is responsible for the deaths of thousands of US soldiers with his lies. David Frum is morally unfit to walk freely among us.

[quote] I've always wondered why they care so much about little ol' us here at Datalounge.

Golly gee whiz

They come for the jizz

Or they go undercover

To troll one another

I love how the Russian trolls à la R371 could not even wait a couple of hours so that it doesn't look like they posted from their St-Petersburg timezone. They sound really nervous because after Barr's version, we're going to have Mueller's version and the collusion with Russia (or more accurately Aiding and abetting) and obstruction are written all over it.

Good times ahead indeed not only for the Democrats but Democracy Lovers!

Don Jr. colluded with Russians connected with the Kremlin, to obtain stolen property to influence the election. He lied repeatedly and kept changing his lies about the meeting to suit the facts that were leaking out. Don Sr. lied when he drafted a false explanation for Don Jr.’s meeting. I saw this with my own eyes. I saw and heard the Trump’s dishonest explanations.

I heard why Trump fired Comey, from his own mouth, to Lester Holt and to the Russian diplomats. It was obstruction.

And more.

If the report doesn’t find crimes here that they can prosecute and win, then the report is wrong.

R408, and yet Frum is correct about Trump .

R136, You answered your own question.

He got them "light sentences."

R363: "Pentagon Papers."

***BREAKING***

El Chapo says the Barr report vindicates him. There was no collusion, no obstruction, that cites El Chapo. He demands satisfaction!

***BREAKING***

[quote]Don Jr. colluded with Russians connected with the Kremlin, to obtain stolen property to influence the election. He lied repeatedly and kept changing his lies about the meeting to suit the facts that were leaking out. Don Sr. lied when he drafted a false explanation for Don Jr.’s meeting. I saw this with my own eyes. I saw and heard the Trump’s dishonest explanations. I heard why Trump fired Comey, from his own mouth, to Lester Holt and to the Russian diplomats. It was obstruction.

Once upon a time shenanigans like these ended political careers tout suite.

We are well past those times.

[quote]He demands satisfaction!

Who is he challenging at a duel? Pistols or swords?

A little levity before the lights go out on Trump’s “victory” dance. Shamefully, I did chuckle a bit.

^^^^^^^^^

What does DL say to Bernie supporters or those on the left who doubted Russian collusion and the Mueller probe from the beginning?

It isn't possible Hillary lost fair and square right. She was cheated by Russians. I believe this therefore it must be true

Odd that you equate doubt in Russian collusion with Bernie support, R240.

NY Post

Special counsel Robert Mueller has definitively put to rest the collusion theory of President Trump’s election. That’s not a little embarrassing for the many journalists, talking heads, celebrities and instant experts who spent more than two years furiously speculating about Moscow “pee-pee” tapes, treasonous rendezvous and the president’s imminent arrest.

The president’s haters no doubt wish to memory-hole collusion and move on to the next anti-Trump theory. But not so fast: We want to laurel the punditry “champion” — the one who peddled the most nonsensical nonsense, the wildest inanities, the weirdest theories and unsubstantiated stories.

That’s where your brackets come in.

Our contenders are divided into four groups (not unlike NCAA conferences): the print journalists, the cable TV talkers, the Twitterati and the network news reporters and “analysts.” And the brackets are seeded, with the most visible and influential figures contending against the lesser-known.

March 25, 2019, 11"52 PM, in the Washington Post:

"Trump administration asks court to completely repeal Obama’s Affordable Care Act"

Now we will see the depth of Republican disdain and depravity unleashed.

I am seriously depressed for my fellow Americans not fortunate to have health care. Sanctity of life indeed.

[quote] R417: Who is he challenging at a duel? Pistols or swords?

Why, Hillary, of course. Obama can be her second.

I’m just disappointed that Mueller didn’t indict himself, Hillary, and Obama. I think Barr probably has it under seal. Maybe an Easter Seal.

So will they ever release the report? Maybe years from now?

Maybe this is all an early April fools joke. They will give us the real results after this gag?

"Pentagon notifies Congress $1 billion authorized to begin new wall construction"

CNN, Updated 2:09 AM ET, Tue March 26, 2019

I'm reading Michael Lewis's book "The Fifth Risk." What trump has done already by placing incompetents and loyalists throughout government departments and purging them of experienced, knowledgeable professionals and scientist is evil. Now, along with stacking the courts with right wingers, the destruction begins in earnest.

These are not people concerned with improving America, these are criminals bent on destroying their enemies and anyone who doesn't agree with them. That's the majority of us.

People talk about taking to the streets. That time will come if they try to halt the 2020 elections.

[quote] If it's all over and Trump won yada yada why are the trolls so damn thick in here the past few days?

It's about establishing the narrative that Trump's opposition are crazy conspiracy tinhats who are worse than Q anon. It's about shaming them (aka us) to retreat / into silence.

[quote]The report has grand jury information in it. Violating Federal Criminal Rule 6(e) regarding the secrecy of grand jury materials is very serious business. You're not supposed to get your hands on that except under certain limited circumstances, and you sure as hell cant publish it.

It would be poetic justice if the report gets released Wikileaks style. Fuck decorum and playing by the book. The GOP doesn't give a shit about fairness.

R429 Are the Birthers now accusing others of being crazy conspiracy tinhats? They must be too stupid to understand irony.

You'd think there'd be more liberal hackers. Guess they're all libertarians, aka embarrassed Repugs.

r431, the right wing has proven over and over again that they don't care about what they said or claimed in the past. They are hypocrites using everything they can, and want, to attack their opposition. And they fully expect to get away with it every single time.

r432, WEHT Anonymous? Apparently the right wing got to them and destroyed their operation and work hard to prevent any new kind of rogue group kicking their ass. And that makes me assume the CIA and the FBI still protect Trump and the GOP. The GOP could not deal with an actual (liberal) hacker threat on their own (unless Putin gave them a hacker finding task foce from Russia as a present).

Add to r434, though I wonder if the Mercers (Cambridge Analytica) and Peter Thiel (Palantir) could come up with something to infiltrate and destroy liberal hacker groups? Maybe with Eric Prince's help?

One thing I almost admire about Republicans is that those bastards know how to wield power. They don’t hesitate. They don’t care about polls. Democrats get power and then they apologize for it.

Colbert takes on the Mueller Report AKA Barr Letter/Summary.

The Barr letter is bullshit. Mueller can give an oral testimony of his Report to Congress.

R438, But he won't. He did what he did.

And now Barr and McConnell are heading the total cover-up.

If Mueller is subpoenaed, he’ll testify. At least the Democrats have that much power.

R363- What is to stop foreign newspapers from printing the entire report? Once a paper in the UK, Canada or Australia gets a hold of it, what recourse does the US have if those countries go ahead and publish the entire unredacted report?

I could see that happening if any of those agents who gave up 2 years of their lives now see the report they worked so hard on being whitewashed. Then once it's out via a foreign news agency, it's just one more step to get it on the net.

^ I pray it leaks.

r441, Trump would declare it an act of war releasing classified information.

R443- So if the Five Eyes countries - UK, New Zealand, Canada and Australia all released the information at the same time, he's going to declare war on all of them? That wouldn't get him very far.

Fuck his declarations. I would love to see that report leaked. Right this second would be perfect.

Imagine the shit show if we didn’t control the house, and this report came out. I shudder to think...

Ganga Tarot

The world hates Trump so hopefully a good hackers got it to leak.

Death, taxes, leaked Mueller report. Three things that are certain.

Morning Joe is pissed this morning.

Garry Kasparov thread on this shit show. About as on money as you can be.

Kasparov's summary is excellent. Hope it spreads far and wide.

On Sunday, Chris Christie said that the DOJ has a rule, that they will not comment on people they are not planning to indict, even if those people have been investigated. (James Comey was the only one in recent history to violate the rule.) Mueller can only comment on the people that have been publicly indicted. If he passed information to a different jurisdiction like the SDNY or whoever, he can't comment on it. If he presented information to a Grand Jury and the Grand Jury said, nah, no collusion, he can't comment on it.

NYT contributing writer Will Wilkinson:

The crescendo of furious gaslighting following Barr's propaganda summary suggests a plan was place to exploit the gap between the submission of the report and public revelation of what's in it to delegitimize Mueller's actual findings and the ongoing investigations.

Trump cronies are incoherently claiming BOTH (a) that the report exonerates him AND (b) the investigation was so ethically compromised and politically biased nothing that came of it can be taken seriously and shouldn't be made public. Obviously can't be both.

Trump's "one weird trick" is the shameless public delegitimization of anyone aligned against his interests. Once again, we're seeing he's the GOAT at this evil art. It's what's made him the Houdini of industrial-scale white-collar theft.

Our idiot media still isn't capable of understanding how to not be co-opted by Trump's reality-bending propaganda machine, and continues to get played like a burgled Stradivarius.

More at link:

Rusher if you’re listening release the Mueller Report

That Kasparov thread is excellent.

Trump thinks he's Mr. Big Shit right about now.

How long til his hubris fucks him over?

[QUOTE]How long til his hubris fucks him over?

It’s been 70 years. Why would anyone think it will fuck him over now?

I had completely forgotten about Dotard's drafting of Junior Mint's lies regarding his email exchange with the Russians.

But totally not obstruction, right?

A leaked Mueller report will mean nothing.

It actually might be a political W for Trump if the full report is disclosed and nothing remarkable happens.

He will tell his base "Look, the full report came out and nothing happened!"

^hahaha. Troll's gotta troll.

Anyone who isn't a half-wit knows that if there was absolutely NOTHING in the report that was bad for Drumpf, he would be releasing the damn report himself.

Did Frum get a make over? He looked much better on Lawrence O’D last night

R461, We want him out of there. If this report can't do that, then what good is it?

It could say he skinned cats or ate puppies, it doesn't really matter if it doesn't lead to indictment.

The news wants the full report because this one story brings many ratings so they want to dissect and discuss any scandalous detail they can find but if the Mueller report doesn't lead to any charges for anyone in the Trump family, its ultimately still a political win for the Trumps.

Therefore, I don't think any good will come from leaking the full report UNLESS indictment is promised

R462, David Frum? No makeover, he just stopped being a right wing asshole for a while now and it took 10 years off his biological age!

Horseshit^^

R393 you've never heard of blackballing? You'll never eat lunch in this town again?

R465 for R463

Frum had bigger hair last night.

[quote]We want him out of there. If this report can't do that, then what good is it?

Really, R463? Who is this WE you are talking about troll?

You forgot to clear your cookies before pretending you're not trolly troll. You know, because you're also the same person who posted these gems:

[quote]Russia does not control Trump. Trump is actually aggressive toward Russia. It's crazy to see how propogandized even critical thinking DL'ers can be.

[quote]Treason is punishable by death and Trump was falsely accused of being treasonous.

Nice try, moron.

Who didn't expect Barr to push a valentine to Trump to the public?

Mueller totally 'gets' Trump, and he's giving him a looong leash to hang himself. Tweety will tour the country with his Vicious Victory Tour, promising revenge on all those who were mean to him. Then he will snap to attention with the realization that he didn't WIN anything at all. "Collusion" is the bait; money-laundering, campaign finance fraud, conflicts of interest, lying... these are the traps.

I suspect that Mueller secretly loathes Trump, esp. after two years of being vilified by him (fake, phony, illegitimate, etc.). They are polar opposites and what Trump is would disgust Mueller. The best way to destroy Trump is in a stealthy , sneaky long-term way.

You gotta know when to fold em...

R470. Give it up muller is not your savior.

Mueller should find Trump loathsome in every way, and an affront to everything he stands for and has achieved in life.

Yet Republican first, last, and always.

And Barr only released HIS Cliff Notes...

Anyone...ANYONE...be it a journalist, politician, or just an ordinary citizen, who thinks it was all a plot to get Trump and that it was all lies, is doing more damage to THEMSELVES. Regardless of what Muellers report really says, anyone who defends Trump and gets behind him is not only delusional , but dangerous. WE WATCHED EVERYTHING UNFOLD BEFORE OUR EYES. Anyone acting like it didnt happen has serious problems and should be ashamed that they are so ignorant.

^That's the tactic from Rethugs and their trolls.... gaslighting to try to make you believe you didn't see what you actually saw.

Remember, Dotard at one point tried to act like the video of him and pussygate was faked.

Good news, folks. The Kremlin and Donald Trump Jr. agree:

"Russiagate is this generation's WMD"

R477 Dotard wishes he was ever in that kind of shape.

If you have a couple hours, watch this 3-part report on Trump/Russia from a YEAR ago. Chockful of interviews with Felix Slater, Roger Stone, etc. The evidence is all in plain sight.

You have to go to a foreign country (Australia) to get any kind of real news.

R469, yeah, and where is the trolling in those posts?

Just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean it's trolling you moron.

Moron at R481 don't be mad you got caught.

"We, " lol.

R482, what did you catch?

Clearly not sense

Ok, R483

The trolls sent to DL really are the dumbest of the bunch.

There's the Kellie Annie's pussy thread. That's where the Putty Poop trolls can go and communicate their real desires. Their syntax and grammar will not be questioned there. And it does have a magical dimension. Manage that one, the Poopites graduate to a Miss Lindzee thread.

Trump/Barr's gaslighting will work on the GOP and exhausted moderates who are out of energy.

There comes a point when, once you understand your sociopath, that their tricks don't work anymore. Yes, we saw the coordination with our own eyes. Yes, we saw what we saw and heard what we heard. No amount of gaslighting over the non-released report will work on those of us who, at the end of the day, saw what we saw and heard what we heard.

Never forget that this whole thing started because multiple of our allies began reporting that members of Trump's campaign team were walking into surveillance nets around known Russian spies, and because Papadumbass was bragging about using foreign contacts to help the campaign. It happened, it is documented and no amount of gaslighting from Barr, Trump and Co will change that reality. I get why Mueller is in a tough spot--and we all know that he does NOT take cases to court unless he is convinced of conviction. Trump skated, Mueller knows he skated and anyone paying full attention knows he skated, too. The rest is gaslighting.

Trump has become fond of carrying rolled-up papers with some nonsense or other to show to reporters. If the Mueller Report fully cleared him he'd be passing out copies.

There is also a reason why Trump tries to intimidate media rather than suing for slander, which is far more his style: They are pursuing something that is true and a lawsuit would bring all the facts into a courtroom. You think Fox News stopped tweeting and is cleaning house because there's no "there" there? Mueller's investigation did damage to this tentacle of the mob.

Cohen reaffirmed what Comey told us--Trump operates like a mob boss. That's because he is knee-deep in the mob. It isn't surprising that Trump walks while all the others do the dirty work, and there are plenty of others doing the dirty work while Trump's outrageous behavior seeks headlines.

I encourage everyone to stop trying to take on and process all of the gaslighting nonsense around Barr's talking points. The money is in Mueller's full report and I support any media source, citizen and politician who clamors for its release. It is only phase one. I'm A-OK with them first shining a bright light into this arena, because voters and citizens have the most power over our electoral process, and that affects far more American citizens directly than Trump's mob activity.

But the cases into Trump's business dealings and his charity (folded in one day--why?) will be much deeper and get to the heart of Trump's mob connections--the money laundering, tax evasion, sex trafficking, etc. Those cases, now farmed out, are still ongoing.

Get a blog, r487. Jesus Christ.

R487 Can you have Barr summarize your post for us?

R487, I'm a fan.

Dan Rather

Yesterday at 10:00 AM

We are now in the aftermath of the bombshell. Not the report itself, at least not yet, but the summary of the report by an attorney general who may or may not have used his position to protect the president.

What do we know? Some things, some pretty important things.

What do we not know? A lot.

We know that the president was not engaged in a conspiracy to collude with the Russian government in its interference with the United States election. We know this after a man of integrity, Robert Mueller, assembled a team of top-notch investigators and spent years looking into the evidence. We should trust that verdict. We also know that the investigatigation led to multiple serious prosecutions and guilty pleas of people very high up in the Trump campaign. We cannot forget that.

Almost everything else is at this point up for interpretation. Were there other nefarious connections with Russian businessmen and the Trump family and organization? Perhaps. Others are investigating. Was there obstruction of justice? Hidden or in plain sight? Matters of interpretation up until now, but the report may contain much more information. We need to see it. There is so much left to find out. And the fight now begins in earnest, in Congress, in other jurisdictions, and ultimately with the American electorate.

But make no mistake, the president and his allies will claim this as an unadulterated and complete victory. This is of course an overstatement but it is not without any grounding in reality.

Many opponents of President Trump are deeply disappointed - for multiple reasons. Many wanted Mueller to uncover a conspiracy so vast and so damning for the President that bipartisan impeachment calls would crescendo. That hope has crashed against the rocks of the reality of Mueller's findings. And everyone should accept that or risk playing the same game with the truth as the President and his enablers.

Others are disappointed that a report that likely is full of nuance and reams of evidence was allowed to be characterized for the public by an attorney general of questionable independence from the man he serves. That is a fair criticism and worry. And the diversity of headlines in the press as to how to summarize the findings show the fight for how to frame the report will continue.

But I suspect most of the president's political opponents were disappointed because they felt that this report and the way it will be used will give fresh energy - maybe they fear even unstoppable energy - to the reelection of a president whom they feel is unfit for office for many, many reasons that go far beyond any question of Russian electoral collusion.

To these people I say, steady. It is almost 600 days until the 2020 election. Which in "newscycle years" is an eternity. In the give and take of politics, you can be beaten but not defeated. For those who feel like they did after the 2016 election, don't forget how you felt after the 2018 election. Ultimately to defeat Trumpism and not just the president will require a verdict from the American people. And we have seen that the votes are there but not without a fight. And that fight would have continued no matter what Robert Mueller found.

The president will crow about this as complete vindication. He will gin up crowds chanting his mantras in syncopated aduration. He will rally his Republican enablers and solidify his base. All that is true. Online his supporters will gloat and denigrate any storyline that does not parrot this simplistic view. They will demand fealty to all that is Trump. To those who feel his tenure in office is anathema to the America they know, this will be infuriating.

If that anger leads to despair, the destiny of this nation will shift much more to President Trump's vision. But if that anger leads to a deep resolve that it shall not be so, then America will likely have a very different journey ahead.

The battle lines for 2020 are clear. The question is who will show up to fight for their beliefs, to organize, and ultimately to vote.

Anyone coming after R487 for the length of his post is a Russian bot or a troll. That was one of the most cogent things I’ve read in the past few days.

Fuck off, you idiotic trolls.

Oh, look! Trump and his minions lied AGAIN! And people wonder why Democrats don't trust the Barr report?

R492 Take out a loan a buy a sense of humor you plum.

Talking about things that require a long time to read reminds me of Seth Abramson. I see his name pop up on DL quite a bit, and he certainly loves looooong threads. Is he a good and reliable source?

yes r495.....definitely worth a read.

R491 I've admired Dan Rather since he was a journalist ducking bullets in Vietnam.

I've been a great admirer of Rather's every since he was sucker-punched by the W Bush White House after GHW Bush cloroxed and oxidized W's military history.

You don't get a daddy who was head of the CIA and later President without benefits.

[quote]Talking about things that require a long time to read reminds me of Seth Abramson. I see his name pop up on DL quite a bit, and he certainly loves looooong threads. Is he a good and reliable source?

Seth is kinda pompous, but he's good at explaining and analyzing. Unfortunately, he gets lumped in with the so-called resistance grifters who string their fans along with wishful thinking: Louise Mensch, Claude Taylor, Eric Garland, the Krassenstein Brothers, Tea Pain USA, etc.

You can tell Seth is worth his salt because the trolls have started bitching about him and trying to discredit him.

Tyranny in the making.

Borowitz

Borowitz is always great, but this is hilariously funny and very sad at the same time. So true!

Someone who never gets talked about anymore is poor Ambassador Kislyak. No Republican on the face of the earth could remember ever having met the man until Beauregard Sessions had to go back to Congress to admit he'd met the man. And had committed perjury by lying and saying he hadn't.

Stories came out saying our intelligence services caught Kislyak saying he'd spoken to Sessions and others about the Trump campaign. Whether those reports were true or not would be in the counter-intelligence sections of Mueller's report.

It's another situation where if everything was really on the up-and-up you'd think they'd want to release the report and prove it.

Doesn’t this stooge look like this guy:

Fuck that cunt Scarborough!

That sniveling POS had the traitor on every damn time that lying sack of shit called in.

He and his stupid bimbo yukked it up constantly with that grifter instead of holding his feet to the fire and making him look like the fool he is.

Now that dumb cunt wants to rant and rave. He fucking helped to elect this shitstain! Morning Joe can eat fat Donnie's shit and die in a grease fire.

Besides being the GOP's go-to coverup guy Barr is also a religious fanatic. If you Google his past writings and speeches you'll see the guy is every bit the nut Pompeo and Pence are.

I beg to differ, r502.

Is he the Cheshire Cat come to life?

Marry me, r508!

Barr could be Antonin Scalia's twin brother. They must have two identical black hearts (when Scalia was still alive, I mean).

I'm curious if Barr's expansive view of presidential power would be the same if we a Democrat in the WH who had been credibly investigated and accused of collusion/conspiracy and obstruction of justice

R512 Of course not. It's all partisan crap they are spewing. If asked, they would say "it's different!". Yeah, different standard for different party indeed.

We are going to find that Mueller made the case for congress to impeach Trump and it was covered up by Barr. Barr will be impeached and charged for obstruction himself....and with any luck, they will go after McConnell also. TRUST.

Barr and Mueller could be burned at the same stake together, if it was up to me.

I dont understand why people are pissed off at Mueller....we only know what Barr has told us. Mueller might have found evidence of a conspiracy and referred it elsewhere. He might have been restricted to only trying to find if Trump and co conspired with the IRA and GRU (whom he indicted) but determined Trump and co had no connection to them (which could be true...but that doesnt mean there wasnt collusion elsewhere). We wont know until we see HIS report. He obviously found obstruction and wanted congress to make that determination via impeachment....thats why he laid out the evidence both pro and con. He reported to both Rosenstein and Barr, so if he wanted THEM to make the determination as to obstruction, he wouldnt have needed to lay out the evidence in a report....he would have told them what he had and asked them what to do.

[quote]I suspect that Mueller secretly loathes Trump

Silkwood shower morning and evening to cope with the swamp. No suspicion about it.

[quote]Remember, Dotard at one point tried to act like the video of him and pussygate was faked.

Told a senior politician that it wasn't in fact him on the tape. Doubtless that made him feel good in the moment. Odd then that he told the world during a Presidential Debate that he'd apologised to his family for the embarrassment. Liars lie. No reason for anyone ever to believe one word Trump says.

No reason to believe anything Barr says either. He's a fanatic.

Burning at the stake is too good for these traitors.

We need a good old DL grease fire to wipe these vermin out.

Altho as fat as all these all white GOP cunts are, it would burn for years.

Re: OP's pic...

Separated at birth?

The distrust of Barr is exactly like Republicans who disliked AG Loretta Lynch for closing the investigation into Hillary's private email server

Mueller WOULD NOT make a case for obstruction not that he could not. Quite the chess player, he has set up both Trump and Barr for a fall.

Explain pls r522

[quote] The distrust of Barr is exactly like Republicans who disliked AG Loretta Lynch for closing the investigation into Hillary's private email server

Hillary's private email server was a witch hunt. In all the time they spent investigating her not a single person was indicted or took a plea deal or anything like the avalanche of shadiness that the Mueller team has revealed about Trump.

[quote]He might have been restricted to only trying to find if Trump and co conspired with the IRA and GRU (whom he indicted) but determined Trump and co had no connection to them (which could be true...but that doesnt mean there wasnt collusion elsewhere).

He wasn't restricted to just that; his remit was much wider. Seth Abramson did a thread on this a few days ago, referring to the letter which appointed Mueller. People are annoyed with Mueller because it appears that he went all 'softly, softly' when his investigation got to the level of dealing with the Trump family. But it's a fair point that we don't know exactly HOW annoyed to be with him because we haven't read the report. There might be cause to be mildly irked or completely livid, we just don't know (yet).

Just think, if the Russians have one bit of evidence that the Trump campaign cooperated with the Russians, they now have a huge blackmail tool over Trump. Bigger than any pee-pee tape.

I have to laugh at the trolls trying to compare this to HIllary's emails. First, as has already been pointed above, not a single person was indicted but second, how many times did they investigate her emails? How many more calls have there been to continue investigating?

So, seems to me, troll, you'd agree that we should in fact keep calling for a closer look into the Mueller report, right?

adding to there other one about Trump lying about Trump Hotel Moscow

Drumpf and the Republicons whole operation is based on gaslighting people.

"Biggest turn out in history for an inauguration and the sun was shining SO BRIGHT..."

They'll literally tell you that the sun was out when it was raining... just so you can't trust what you actually see and hear. There's a reason Deplorables love their party.... it's a cult that tells them what to think because they're too stupid to do so on their own.

I'd still like to know why Trump was acting like a confined dog whose cage was being rattled by a stick before the report was submitted, and why he was so relieved afterward.

Doesn't that behavior speak louder than (millions of) words?

R530, so seems like Mueller sold us out. Regardless no indictments against the kids and Kushner. So the report was lame. And why did he let Flynn plead for lesser charges?

What's the deal with this FBI Vault thing???

R531 = The Mueller Sold us Out Troll!

I can’t really place Rosenstein in all this mess. He agreed to wear a wire to catch Trump per McCabe, and yet he’s ok with letting Trump get away with murder?

McCabe called him a “survivor”, whatever that means. Does he just change his convictions depending on who’s in the same room with him?

You can bet that the ratings for Mueller testifying will be ... huge! And Trump will hate how big of a ratings hit it's going to be and everybody will talk about that and Barr and his little partisan interpretation will be obliterated.

So if Barr misrepresented Mueller's findings what exactly happens now? Can Mueller go public? Would he?

That FBI records vault is fascinating.

Someone is dropping some info on the side.

I looked through some of the stuff a few months ago and it is a treasure trove of juicy tidbits and newspaper articles.

Check out their file on that pedo Epstein. Creepy and infuriating at the same time.

That's one of my favorite follows on Twitter.

R536, why hasn’t he said anything yet? When Buzzfeed posted an article that Mueller didn’t agree with, his spokesperson put out an immediate statement.

Why doesn’t he say anything now?

I bet Mueller won’t since it is not protocol. And I agree with R538, the silence from Mueller is deafening.

I want the next title to be Treasons for McConnell’s Ouster.

Maybe the report actually will be a big letdown and they are withholding it to let the media and Dems go nuts and when it’s finally released they can double down on not trusting the MSM and revel in Dems having egg on their face.

Mueller needs to step his pussy up. I don’t really care that he “follows protocol.” The fate of the Republic was/is in his hands.

His legacy is being tarnished and two years of his life is being summed up in four (erroneously and hastily written) pages by a fat gargoyle. I can’t think he’s happy about the outcome of this.

Where is Mueller’s epic chess game?

Meow. Meow. Innocent. Meow.

The internet is finally coming for Yertle. It’s been all over Twitter and Reddit the last few days.

Have at it.

What ever happened to draining the swamp?

IF Mueller turns out to be a Republican loyalist who put party before country then what stands in the way of civil unrest? Where are the rallies? Will Trump declare Martial Law, because the Liberals act out all because of some so called bogus witch hunt (hiding behind Barr's brief interpretation)?

Barr's engaging in obstruction along with Trump. The gameplan is to prevent the report's release. This weeks not months rhetoric is more bullshit.

^He did. He then filled it up with even worse reptiles.

Where is our "take it to the streets" troll?

R546- It's hard to see how Mueller put party before country. If that were the case, he wouldn't have taken 2 years to put out a report and he never would have handed out immunity for people to testify. He would have done a superficial report after taking a few months to look at the evidence and then said in the report that there was nothing that needed further investigation.

The cover up is always worse than the crime.

Trolls are still trying to push the narrative that we know what Mueller said in the report.

No, we don't.

We know how Barr summarized it within the confines of what HE BELIEVES to be the law, which wasn't his place to do in the first place.

[quote] If that were the case, he wouldn't have taken 2 years to put out a report and he never would have handed out immunity for people to testify. He would have done a superficial report after taking a few months to look at the evidence and then said in the report that there was nothing that needed further investigation.

Not saying this is indeed the case, but it would make sense to stretch it out and time, and frame, it in a way where Trump could use it for his presidential campaign in 2020 where he "survived" a brutal witch hunt.

Per Maggie Haberman, Trump said this today during his visit with Repug senators:

"POTUS praised Barr, per person briefed: 'I love the AG. He works fast. I love this guy. You told me I would.' "

The White House will get the Mueller report to make redactions before it’s released to the public, Barr says.

r555. Wow. Just wow.

R555 Ohh great! The one being investigated can "redact" out all his crimes... Justice is dead! LOL

The only way to deal with this kind of complete and utter corruption is for a conscientious soul to leak this report to the public.

The only thing not redacted will be:

"By Robert Mueller."

Taking on Obamacare is yet again just another play out of their book... distract!

Twice in one week the rich get away it.

Republicons obviously don't believe in God or an after life.

R588, that is what I'm hoping for, too. I was also hoping for a different outcome from Mueller, so my expectations now are quite low.

This is like a fucking nightmare.

Never ever trust repugs.

If they get away with this, our country is truly dead. Fucking dead. We will be exactly like Russia- a stale, increasingly oppressive oligarchy.

The Democrats in the House aren't going to wait to get tRump's edited version of the report, nor will they accept a version with redactions. Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler certainly have a right to see the unedited, original version of the damn report.

I suspect that what will finally be revealed is not that Barr revised what Mueller wrote, but rather that he simply omitted significant portions from his summary. If he had actively misrepresented what the report states, he would have invited dissent from the Mueller team. But. by just being silent, Barr could hide behind his view that certain topics were privileged and shouldn't be discussed.

Is there any reason that the House can't subpoena Mueller to testify and is there any reason Mueller wouldn't?

Maybe Repubs *are* holding the report up to spring it on us like a trap. I don't know. I also don't care. I deserve to see that report and not a summary scrubbed by the White House and delivered by Barr. If it was all a set-up by nefarious Democrats to bring down Trump, I deserve to know that, too. But not through an investigation led by Trump's biggest ass-licking syncophant Lindsey Graham. Who can trust whatever he leads?

The point of appointing Robert Mueller, American Hero, to investigate this was so that America could be reassured by his findings. We haven't SEEN his findings. We've seen four half-sentences from his report.

And here's Rudy earlier on CNN. Keep this dumbass talking and the whole thing will fall apart by Friday.

No collusion, erp!

Dems shouldn't spend all their time obsessing about this report. Other than being obtained in its original form, it would be tainted by all kinds of GOP manipulation now that they have got their hands on it. The House must start investigations now into the Trump crime family's criminal activities revealed over the past two years. We can only trust what the Dems do for themselves in the end, since the Republicans have become completely corrupt in service of Trump.

The military is pissed that they have to build detainee housing. And now several military projects are being put on hold due to wall funding. In republican districts.

Anytime you can, point out to deplorables that there is a huge cost to their blind loyalty.

If the report identified crimes , tell me why Ivanka and Jared weren’t indicted?

How do we know the report identified crimes? Nobody has seen it.

Mueller testifying before Congress April 2, is that a public hearing? If so, it wiIk be a lot of puffery and grandstanding by repugs. The dems should cede their time to an experienced prosecutor who can be concise and follow a consistent line of questioning.

Don't waste time trying to impress voters back home. Get to the bottom of this.

Barr is delaying and redacting. He is at DoJ to protect Trump. The full, unredacted report needs to be released, and very soon, not weeks. Barr will redact all he thinks he can get away with doing. That cannot be trusted.

Rudy just said "What you're going to find out about obstruction -- is that this is matter of interpretation."

So...Rudy is admitting that Mueller found obstruction but it's just a matter of interpretation???

Why are the Democrats holding off on bringing in Mueller to testify? He's the only one who can answer questions about what is really in the report.

An interesting comment, R576. It was always suspected that Barr was brought in because he has an unusually restrictive interpretation of obstruction.

[quote]We are going to find that Mueller made the case for congress to impeach Trump and it was covered up by Barr. Barr will be impeached and charged for obstruction himself.

From what I understand the HJC can indeed bring an impeachment case against Barr and charge him for obstruction re all this, even if it's a flimsy case....and in the process of that, they can subpoena the entire Mueller report, unredacted.

More than one way to get to your destination with effort. Don't lose faith here folks, we'll see this full report.

[quote] Why are the Democrats holding off on bringing in Mueller to testify? He's the only one who can answer questions about what is really in the report.

I would imagine they are waiting for the release of the report so they know what to ask Mueller. Not really knowing what Mueller said, we only know what Barr chose to release.

That's what I've been saying all along, R576. We're going to find out that what was released wasn't anything close to what Mueller actually intended... it's all in how Barr, "interpreted," the information, which wasn't his job to do.

Not even one sentence from the Mueller report was quoted in its entirety in Barr's CliffsNotes version. Not one.

Lindz meets with Barr. This is crap, because he is collaborating with Barr as to what may be released. Delete Grand Jury testimony, intelligence content, and allow Trump and the WH to see the report before Congress does, and redact what else Trump wants removed, claiming Executive Privilege.

Executive Privilege doesn't cover criminal behavior. But Barr will oblige.

Graham is out-of-control and his Senate colleagues need to address that. Republicans won't, and most of them are encouraging his behavior.

What right does a Senator have to meet with Barr to discuss the report?

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R555, where is your claim reported?

According to USA Today, the DOJ currently has no plans to give the Report to the White House before it gives it to Congress.

Mommy, Mr. Barr looks retarded!

One of us... One of us...

I think Barr pulled the plug on the Mueller investigation. If he releases the report, all the bombshells will be deleted.

R589, I'm curious if the report reveals that they didn't have ENOUGH evidence YET and needed to continue the investigation to gather everything and because Barr pulled it, the report, according to Barr, couldn't produce enough to meet Barr's definition of a crime.

Barr should be canceled.

Pense who has been MIA, was dragged out to prop up the pustule in chief for a press function with Isreali officials and all these males were swollen with misplaced pride, TRIUMPHANT! They were proud to have deceived the American public and get away with it, once again!

Without reading a non-redacted report, the press has declared this admin collusion free. This declaration comes on the heels of multiple indictments from this administration and public condemnations from M Cohen who all but called dump a POS.

[quote]I'm curious if the report reveals that they didn't have ENOUGH evidence YET and needed to continue the investigation to gather everything and because Barr pulled it, the report, according to Barr, couldn't produce enough to meet Barr's definition of a crime.

If Mueller testifies in the House, this is the question I want answered first.

Bajour Barr!

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